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11 Jan 2016, 6:49 am

I do miss the golden age of CN, when shows like Courage, EE'n'E and KND were aired. Now it's all strange and nonsensical stuff. I personally can't tell any of the new shows apart, all have a symplistic meme-like look.


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01 Feb 2016, 5:16 pm

Austinfrom1995 wrote:
I do miss the golden age of CN, when shows like Courage, EE'n'E and KND were aired. Now it's all strange and nonsensical stuff. I personally can't tell any of the new shows apart, all have a symplistic meme-like look.


maybe the reason why cartoons are like that nowadays is because :

A. Spongebob made the whole "strange and nonsensical stuff" a cliche that cartoon will follow from this point on.

B. Internet memes are popular and they are desperately trying to generate as many memes as possible in hopes of getting free publicity.


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01 Feb 2016, 10:35 pm

Austinfrom1995 wrote:
I do miss the golden age of CN, when shows like Courage, EE'n'E and KND were aired. Now it's all strange and nonsensical stuff. I personally can't tell any of the new shows apart, all have a symplistic meme-like look.

I wouldn't say that it's all nonsensical. Strange, yes, depending on which specific cartoons we're talking about, but most of them make sense pnce you figure what kind of rules apply in each cartoon. Besides, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Ed Edd & Eddy, and KND all also got pretty strange at times anyways so I have no idea what point it was you were trying to make. Really, most cartoons on That channel have always been strange, whether it's actually Cartoon Network or [adult-swim]. Honestly, even with rose-tinted glasses I can remember that all the really cool and strange shows I liked were on Cartoon Network (Invader Zim and Ka-Blam! being the exceptions).


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02 Feb 2016, 9:48 am

The_Blonde_Alien wrote:
Austinfrom1995 wrote:
I do miss the golden age of CN, when shows like Courage, EE'n'E and KND were aired. Now it's all strange and nonsensical stuff. I personally can't tell any of the new shows apart, all have a symplistic meme-like look.


maybe the reason why cartoons are like that nowadays is because :

A. Spongebob made the whole "strange and nonsensical stuff" a cliche that cartoon will follow from this point on.

B. Internet memes are popular and they are desperately trying to generate as many memes as possible in hopes of getting free publicity.


Sorry, it's just that I don't care for SpongeBob (always found it "meh" compared to other Nicktoons of its time) or internet memes. :(


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The_Blonde_Alien wrote:
Austinfrom1995 wrote:
I do miss the golden age of CN, when shows like Courage, EE'n'E and KND were aired. Now it's all strange and nonsensical stuff. I personally can't tell any of the new shows apart, all have a symplistic meme-like look.


maybe the reason why cartoons are like that nowadays is because :

A. Spongebob made the whole "strange and nonsensical stuff" a cliche that cartoon will follow from this point on.

B. Internet memes are popular and they are desperately trying to generate as many memes as possible in hopes of getting free publicity.

Memes have a lifespan of about three weeks more or less while animation takes months to produce. I see a new episode of a show that tries and still uses memes that died off last week to years ago and I just can't look at it anymore. A show being that dated needs to die while it still has the smallest shred of dignity left.


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02 Feb 2016, 12:57 pm

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The_Blonde_Alien wrote:
Austinfrom1995 wrote:
I do miss the golden age of CN, when shows like Courage, EE'n'E and KND were aired. Now it's all strange and nonsensical stuff. I personally can't tell any of the new shows apart, all have a symplistic meme-like look.


maybe the reason why cartoons are like that nowadays is because :

A. Spongebob made the whole "strange and nonsensical stuff" a cliche that cartoon will follow from this point on.

B. Internet memes are popular and they are desperately trying to generate as many memes as possible in hopes of getting free publicity.

Memes have a lifespan of about three weeks more or less while animation takes months to produce. I see a new episode of a show that tries and still uses memes that died off last week to years ago and I just can't look at it anymore. A show being that dated needs to die while it still has the smallest shred of dignity left.


Ya, case in point: Fairly oddparents, the characters did duck face and selfies in the new season premier. Good gosh that was painful to see.


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02 Feb 2016, 1:19 pm

For anyone that likes old Nickelodeon cartoons, watch the Splat. It's a block on Teennick that airs 90's-00's Nickelodeon shows late at night.



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02 Feb 2016, 3:30 pm

Another trend i've noticedabout modern cartoons.The incredibly cheap production.

-The annoying orange cartoon
-Breadwinners

What do they have in common: both made by youtube personalities.Which means dirt cheap by animation studios standards.

In fact, true story: when the creator of breadwinners got an email from Nickelodeon asking if he was interested to have his little cartoon on TV he thought it was a joke! :wink:

Now say what you want about Cartoon Network, but they're at least recovering from the disastrous era that was C.2006-2011.You could say adventure time is what saved the network from collapse.

Nickelodeon on the other hand...

Networks like CN and the Hub at least care for their diverse audience of various age. Nick on the other hand makes it clear they they do not care at all for viewers over the age of 12.They also have a history of screwing-over popular shows that were popular with a certain age demographic above the age of 12 (Invader Zim, The legend of Korra are prime examples).



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02 Feb 2016, 5:50 pm

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For anyone that likes old Nickelodeon cartoons, watch the Splat. It's a block on Teennick that airs 90's-00's Nickelodeon shows late at night.


i watch it. thank you Nickelodeon!


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02 Feb 2016, 7:27 pm

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goofygoobers wrote:
For anyone that likes old Nickelodeon cartoons, watch the Splat. It's a block on Teennick that airs 90's-00's Nickelodeon shows late at night.


i watch it. thank you Nickelodeon!


I find CN's Boomerang channel to be WAY better since it's an entire channel about old CN cartoons (mostly Hanna Barbera cartoons like Scooby Doo)

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02 Feb 2016, 9:07 pm

Austinfrom1995 wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
The_Blonde_Alien wrote:
Austinfrom1995 wrote:
I do miss the golden age of CN, when shows like Courage, EE'n'E and KND were aired. Now it's all strange and nonsensical stuff. I personally can't tell any of the new shows apart, all have a symplistic meme-like look.


maybe the reason why cartoons are like that nowadays is because :

A. Spongebob made the whole "strange and nonsensical stuff" a cliche that cartoon will follow from this point on.

B. Internet memes are popular and they are desperately trying to generate as many memes as possible in hopes of getting free publicity.

Memes have a lifespan of about three weeks more or less while animation takes months to produce. I see a new episode of a show that tries and still uses memes that died off last week to years ago and I just can't look at it anymore. A show being that dated needs to die while it still has the smallest shred of dignity left.


Ya, case in point: Fairly oddparents, the characters did duck face and selfies in the new season premier. Good gosh that was painful to see.

I saw that and I was not impressed.


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02 Feb 2016, 10:12 pm

The_Blonde_Alien wrote:
Simmian7 wrote:
goofygoobers wrote:
For anyone that likes old Nickelodeon cartoons, watch the Splat. It's a block on Teennick that airs 90's-00's Nickelodeon shows late at night.


i watch it. thank you Nickelodeon!


I find CN's Boomerang channel to be WAY better since it's an entire channel about old CN cartoons (mostly Hanna Barbera cartoons like Scooby Doo)

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I haven't had Boomerang since I moved because it's in a cable package full of sports channels. :(



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02 Feb 2016, 11:16 pm

Simmian7 wrote:
goofygoobers wrote:
For anyone that likes old Nickelodeon cartoons, watch the Splat. It's a block on Teennick that airs 90's-00's Nickelodeon shows late at night.


i watch it. thank you Nickelodeon!
I watch it when they're not showing Hey Arnold or CatDog. My girlfriend bought me the DVD series of Rocko's Modern Life for Christmas & The Angry Beavers for my birthday so I don't watch those on The Splat & I DLed Rugrats & All Grown Up so I don't need to watch that either.


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El_Arquero wrote:
Another trend i've noticedabout modern cartoons.The incredibly cheap production.

-The annoying orange cartoon
-Breadwinners

What do they have in common: both made by youtube personalities.Which means dirt cheap by animation studios standards.

In fact, true story: when the creator of breadwinners got an email from Nickelodeon asking if he was interested to have his little cartoon on TV he thought it was a joke! :wink:

Now say what you want about Cartoon Network, but they're at least recovering from the disastrous era that was C.2006-2011.You could say adventure time is what saved the network from collapse.

Nickelodeon on the other hand...

Networks like CN and the Hub at least care for their diverse audience of various age. Nick on the other hand makes it clear they they do not care at all for viewers over the age of 12.They also have a history of screwing-over popular shows that were popular with a certain age demographic above the age of 12 (Invader Zim, The legend of Korra are prime examples).
yeah, there's a reason I don't watch Nickelodeon anymore. Maybe if they show some of the pre-first movie episodes of Spongebob, but usually I avoid it. But honestly it seems Cartoon Network does the same with certain kinds of cartoons. Young Justice and Symbionic Titan were both canceled due to toy sales (not enough for the former, couldn't find a maker for the latter). Dreamworks' Dragons series pretty much ran off to Netflix. Even the last Ben 10 series, one of their cash cows, had been relegated to an early morning death slot towards the end of its run. I think the one in charge of the shows right now basically thinks that kids won't pay attention to either action shows, or shows that are longer than 11 minutes at a time. I'm leaning towards the latter.


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03 Feb 2016, 3:03 pm

Aspiegaming wrote:
Austinfrom1995 wrote:
Aspiegaming wrote:
The_Blonde_Alien wrote:
Austinfrom1995 wrote:
I do miss the golden age of CN, when shows like Courage, EE'n'E and KND were aired. Now it's all strange and nonsensical stuff. I personally can't tell any of the new shows apart, all have a symplistic meme-like look.


maybe the reason why cartoons are like that nowadays is because :

A. Spongebob made the whole "strange and nonsensical stuff" a cliche that cartoon will follow from this point on.

B. Internet memes are popular and they are desperately trying to generate as many memes as possible in hopes of getting free publicity.

Memes have a lifespan of about three weeks more or less while animation takes months to produce. I see a new episode of a show that tries and still uses memes that died off last week to years ago and I just can't look at it anymore. A show being that dated needs to die while it still has the smallest shred of dignity left.


Ya, case in point: Fairly oddparents, the characters did duck face and selfies in the new season premier. Good gosh that was painful to see.

I saw that and I was not impressed.


To me, FoP died when Sparky arrived.


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03 Feb 2016, 4:05 pm

Austinfrom1995 wrote:
To me, FoP died when Sparky arrived.


Nah, to me FoP died when Poof arrived. :(


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