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03 Feb 2016, 4:05 pm

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To me, FoP died when Sparky arrived.


Nah, to me FoP died when Poof arrived. :(


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03 Feb 2016, 4:10 pm

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I do miss the golden age of CN, when shows like Courage, EE'n'E and KND were aired. Now it's all strange and nonsensical stuff. I personally can't tell any of the new shows apart, all have a symplistic meme-like look.


maybe the reason why cartoons are like that nowadays is because :

A. Spongebob made the whole "strange and nonsensical stuff" a cliche that cartoon will follow from this point on.

B. Internet memes are popular and they are desperately trying to generate as many memes as possible in hopes of getting free publicity.

Memes have a lifespan of about three weeks more or less while animation takes months to produce. I see a new episode of a show that tries and still uses memes that died off last week to years ago and I just can't look at it anymore. A show being that dated needs to die while it still has the smallest shred of dignity left.


Ya, case in point: Fairly oddparents, the characters did duck face and selfies in the new season premier. Good gosh that was painful to see.

I saw that and I was not impressed.


To me, FoP died when Sparky arrived.

Channel Chasers felt like the series finale to me. Any episodes after that taking place before the Poof/Sparky/Chloe seasons would take place before Channel Chasers, in my opinion. The Poof/Sparky/Chloe era is basically spin-off-ish. I wouldn't include those seasons.


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03 Feb 2016, 4:44 pm

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To me, FoP died when Sparky arrived.


Nah, to me FoP died when Poof arrived. :(


The pre-Poof episodes are the best, especially the ones from the early 2000's.



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03 Feb 2016, 5:40 pm

Poof was a plot device, nothing more.

Channel Chasers was by far one of the series' high points.


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03 Feb 2016, 9:10 pm

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yeah, there's a reason I don't watch Nickelodeon anymore. Maybe if they show some of the pre-first movie episodes of Spongebob, but usually I avoid it. But honestly it seems Cartoon Network does the same with certain kinds of cartoons. Young Justice and Symbionic Titan were both canceled due to toy sales (not enough for the former, couldn't find a maker for the latter). Dreamworks' Dragons series pretty much ran off to Netflix. Even the last Ben 10 series, one of their cash cows, had been relegated to an early morning death slot towards the end of its run. I think the one in charge of the shows right now basically thinks that kids won't pay attention to either action shows, or shows that are longer than 11 minutes at a time. I'm leaning towards the latter.


Let's not forget that CN also lost The Clone Wars, another popular show since it's rival Disney bought the Star Wars franchise.

For the 11 minutes thing that would certainly explain the rise of popular youtubers getting their own shows, like i menationed with the annoying orange.They are certainly short, extremely cheap to produce and they had pre-existing popularity.Then there are other shows that fallowed the route of extremely cheap (or lazy) animation+chaotic nonsensical humour like Uncle grandpa or pickle and peanut (which btw, one of the voice actors Jimmy Pemberton, has gotten very salty on twitter to critics).

Some people think these cheaply animated shows merely act as timeslot fillers.Something that would fill the slot, while not distracting viewers too much from their flagship shows.

Personally i still watch Nickelodeon because of TMNT and power rangers dino charge,though Nickelodeon's meddling has affected previous seasons (PR Samurai,for example was forced to be filmed in just 6 months).



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yeah, there's a reason I don't watch Nickelodeon anymore. Maybe if they show some of the pre-first movie episodes of Spongebob, but usually I avoid it. But honestly it seems Cartoon Network does the same with certain kinds of cartoons. Young Justice and Symbionic Titan were both canceled due to toy sales (not enough for the former, couldn't find a maker for the latter). Dreamworks' Dragons series pretty much ran off to Netflix. Even the last Ben 10 series, one of their cash cows, had been relegated to an early morning death slot towards the end of its run. I think the one in charge of the shows right now basically thinks that kids won't pay attention to either action shows, or shows that are longer than 11 minutes at a time. I'm leaning towards the latter.


Let's not forget that CN also lost The Clone Wars, another popular show since it's rival Disney bought the Star Wars franchise.

For the 11 minutes thing that would certainly explain the rise of popular youtubers getting their own shows, like i menationed with the annoying orange.They are certainly short, extremely cheap to produce and they had pre-existing popularity.Then there are other shows that fallowed the route of extremely cheap (or lazy) animation+chaotic nonsensical humour like Uncle grandpa or pickle and peanut (which btw, one of the voice actors Jimmy Pemberton, has gotten very salty on twitter to critics).

Some people think these cheaply animated shows merely act as timeslot fillers.Something that would fill the slot, while not distracting viewers too much from their flagship shows.

Personally i still watch Nickelodeon because of TMNT and power rangers dino charge,though Nickelodeon's meddling has affected previous seasons (PR Samurai,for example was forced to be filmed in just 6 months).
With all honesty, Pickle and Peanut can be blamed on Disney, since it airs on one of their channels. And there are some of those types of shows that are pretty good. Didn't We Bare Bears start off as a web animation? And I honestly can't tell what CN's "flagship" show is right now, but it's probably the one everyone here agrees needs to go. I can't even find Adventure Time reruns on there anymore.


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04 Feb 2016, 6:33 pm

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For anyone that likes old Nickelodeon cartoons, watch the Splat. It's a block on Teennick that airs 90's-00's Nickelodeon shows late at night.


i watch it. thank you Nickelodeon!


I find CN's Boomerang channel to be WAY better since it's an entire channel about old CN cartoons (mostly Hanna Barbera cartoons like Scooby Doo)

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I just checked this weeks schedule of Boomerang... and it looks like a healthy schedule. it's what CN should be. and it looks more structured and not so random like CN....LOL it's a mix of old and current toons. wabbit, pokemon and ttg are on the schedule but in better amounts...


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05 Feb 2016, 7:32 am

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For anyone that likes old Nickelodeon cartoons, watch the Splat. It's a block on Teennick that airs 90's-00's Nickelodeon shows late at night.


i watch it. thank you Nickelodeon!


I find CN's Boomerang channel to be WAY better since it's an entire channel about old CN cartoons (mostly Hanna Barbera cartoons like Scooby Doo)

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I just checked this weeks schedule of Boomerang... and it looks like a healthy schedule. it's what CN should be. and it looks more structured and not so random like CN....LOL it's a mix of old and current toons. wabbit, pokemon and ttg are on the schedule but in better amounts...


I wish I could've said the same thing about the NickToons channel. :(

Thouh come to think of it, It has some interesting shows like the new Digmon series, Power Rangers, Dragon Ball Z Kai ect. So it isn't like Cartoon Network's endless spamming of Uncle Granpa and Teen Titans Go!


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05 Feb 2016, 12:37 pm

The_Blonde_Alien wrote:
Simmian7 wrote:
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For anyone that likes old Nickelodeon cartoons, watch the Splat. It's a block on Teennick that airs 90's-00's Nickelodeon shows late at night.


i watch it. thank you Nickelodeon!


I find CN's Boomerang channel to be WAY better since it's an entire channel about old CN cartoons (mostly Hanna Barbera cartoons like Scooby Doo)

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I just checked this weeks schedule of Boomerang... and it looks like a healthy schedule. it's what CN should be. and it looks more structured and not so random like CN....LOL it's a mix of old and current toons. wabbit, pokemon and ttg are on the schedule but in better amounts...


I wish I could've said the same thing about the NickToons channel. :(

Thouh come to think of it, It has some interesting shows like the new Digmon series, Power Rangers, Dragon Ball Z Kai ect. So it isn't like Cartoon Network's endless spamming of Uncle Granpa and Teen Titans Go!
That's true but the only two shows I watch on there are Spongebob & Rabbids Invasion. I don't go out of my way to watch Spongebob(I mostly watch when there's nothing else on) & Rabbids doesn't get shown very often at all; it went like 6months or more without being shown on any Nick channel after the last season ended. I quit watching Nick by the time I graduated high-school in 2001. I didn't start again till they were showing iCarly. The only other show I watched on Nick sense then is Sam & Cat.

I never heard of Boomerang till I saw this thread. It's not something Comcast carries, at least in my area anyways.


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07 Jun 2016, 6:18 pm

i'm so close to 200 signatures. I'm sure there are many more people out there that agree with me. so c'mon...sign it, speak up! demand #CartoonDiversity!


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07 Jun 2016, 6:34 pm

There's a site called Funnier Moments that has some old cartoon series that you can watch & they have some of the old Cartoon Network shows in addition to other shows. http://www.funniermoments.com/show.php? ... toonplanet


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08 Jun 2016, 9:59 am

Cartoon Network can drown into the dregs of television for all I care, not too happy about their behavior concerning Metalocalypse. They're outright trying to prevent the creator from releasing the conclusion of the show...bought the rights and wont have it released on their channel or any others if they can help it.

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Cartoon Network can drown into the dregs of television for all I care, not too happy about their behavior concerning Metalocalypse. They're outright trying to prevent the creator from releasing the conclusion of the show...bought the rights and wont have it released on their channel or any others if they can help it.

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Damn, I was wondering what happened there.


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09 Jun 2016, 3:59 pm

Since we are all talking about Cartoon Network's Corruption and questionable bussiness practices, What do you guys think of the new Powerpuff girls? Y'know, the one where they are twerking? :roll:



If one thing is certain, it's that Cartoon Network definitely doesn't like to support shows Like Steven Universe and Adventure Time, both of which, quite ironically, are the shows that most likely give them the real money.


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09 Jun 2016, 4:02 pm

^Well, what has the world come to? :lol:


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09 Jun 2016, 4:58 pm

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Since we are all talking about Cartoon Network's Corruption and questionable bussiness practices, What do you guys think of the new Powerpuff girls? Y'know, the one where they are twerking? :roll:



If one thing is certain, it's that Cartoon Network definitely doesn't like to support shows Like Steven Universe and Adventure Time, both of which, quite ironically, are the shows that most likely give them the real money.

WHAT HAVE THEY DONE?! TWERKING?! REALLY?!


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