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14 Nov 2012, 7:38 pm

There are none.
I want to make that change
any comments would be appreciated

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14 Nov 2012, 9:22 pm

Wow, I looked at your website and your dedication is impressive.


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14 Nov 2012, 10:42 pm

It's close to my heart.
I would have really thrived in an environment with others like me. Especially without the bullies.

You always know when you run into someone who is wired like you. Isn't it great!

And there's a school sitting right here that could be the very first one.



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15 Nov 2012, 1:12 pm

I went to a highly-selective high school, and consequently, a lot of the people there were on the spectrum. I think specialized education is a good idea, but populating a school solely with AS/HFA students is somewhat dangerous.

As AS/HFA students, we need to learn how to operate in situations where few of our peers will understand us. Imagine the shock of leaving a school where everyone is like you and going off to university and eventually a career.



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15 Nov 2012, 3:43 pm

I think you have a wonderful idea, but it might work better as a charter school or a private school that operated on donations instead of tuition? (Just ideas) If the feds get their hands in it, the whole idea will turn into a "one-size-fits-all" philosophy, when ends up fitting no one.


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15 Nov 2012, 5:35 pm

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charter school


Charter schools are bad.



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15 Nov 2012, 6:14 pm

I'd really like some info on the "charter schools are bad" idea. I will admit to knowing very little about them, so I am open to learning from anyone with more knowledge.


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15 Nov 2012, 7:55 pm

profofhumanities wrote:
I'd really like some info on the "charter schools are bad" idea. I will admit to knowing very little about them, so I am open to learning from anyone with more knowledge.


The problem with charter schools is that they put public money in private hands. Charter schools are not required to follow many of the rules and regulations that public schools must.

Charter schools are rarely any better, and drain money that should go towards traditional public schools. Since charter schools are allowed to set their own admission policies, many will not admit special-needs, ESL, or below-average students. This means that the charter school looks like it has a phenomenal success rate on paper, while actually just having the top students from public schools.

Charter schools then can gain more money (leveraging their ill-gotten test scores), expand, and further drain funds/brains from the public school system. The worst part is that many politicians will use these "success stories" to fight for more private education, all while pocketing funds from private education lobbyists.



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15 Nov 2012, 8:12 pm

Thank you. That makes sense. I guess I would be for private schools that offered scholarships for students unable to pay.


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15 Nov 2012, 8:20 pm

profofhumanities wrote:
Thank you. That makes sense. I guess I would be for private schools that offered scholarships for students unable to pay.


I think we just need to fund public education better and pool property taxes so that schools in poorer areas aren't disadvantaged.



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15 Nov 2012, 9:41 pm

I have to respectfully disagree on that point. In the U.S., we have been shoveling money into the public schools for generations, and more money has not translated to better results. In Texas, we even tried a "Robin Hood" funding system where wealthier districts gave money to a pool that was distributed to poorer districts. No change in educational outcomes and a lot of angry taxpayers are all that resulted.
So much of what makes education work cannot be bought.


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16 Nov 2012, 2:40 am

First off, we are hardly "shoveling" money in. Federal school funding has been gradually reduced since the Reagan administration and state funding has mostly followed. Second, could you cite a source for educational outcomes from the Texas "Robin Hood" plan, as I can't find one, though I am familiar with the plan itself.



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16 Nov 2012, 10:52 am

The idea that you can just throw money at schools and get better educational results is flawed.

Education requires will and desire to learn. Education requires parents who will address behavioral problems. Education requires parents who will be involved.

You can't buy those things with money.

Another big problem is the way our educational system is set up. We prepare everyone for college. We under fund vocational tech schools. There's no greater example than on Little People Big World. The oldest son was a GENIUS at auto repair. Absolute genius, but instead of getting his son enrolled in a program to become a master auto tech, his father was pushing him to get a degree from the Warton School of Business. Ridiculous.

I think there are kids who would greatly benefit from vocational tech.

And the last remaining problem is discipline. Our schools are crippled when it comes to that. It's so much paperwork, there's not much they can do, the parents refuse to admit their precious angel punched out another kid with brass knuckles, or that their joy and delight acts like an ignorant fool and is failing. Why are private and charter schools nice? They can kick out the ignorant trash that doesn't want to be there. They can kick out the ignorant trash who beat up the smart kids for doing well in school.

But I still agree that with the idea of a charter or private school for talented kids. We dumb down so much, we spend so much time bringing people up to the baseline that the smart kids get left behind.



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16 Nov 2012, 8:29 pm

As long as these schools teach AS people how to deal with those not like them, I'm all for them! Punish, punish, punish, PUNISH bullies there!! !


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17 Nov 2012, 5:24 pm

This link has info that delves into the Texas public school funding issue.

http://www.texasisd.com/cat_index_25.shtml

Yes, I believe Aspies need to learn to deal with NTs, but I also think more NTs need to learn to deal with Aspies. My little guy is trying to navigate an NT world, but he doesn't see much of anyone trying to understand his point of view. For someone so young, it is especially difficult. I can't help but think he would be more comfortable in an environment he could share with other Aspies, at least for part of the day.


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