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17 Nov 2012, 5:27 pm

thewhitrbbit wrote:
The idea that you can just throw money at schools and get better educational results is flawed.

Education requires will and desire to learn. Education requires parents who will address behavioral problems. Education requires parents who will be involved.

You can't buy those things with money.

Another big problem is the way our educational system is set up. We prepare everyone for college. We under fund vocational tech schools. There's no greater example than on Little People Big World. The oldest son was a GENIUS at auto repair. Absolute genius, but instead of getting his son enrolled in a program to become a master auto tech, his father was pushing him to get a degree from the Warton School of Business. Ridiculous.

I think there are kids who would greatly benefit from vocational tech.

And the last remaining problem is discipline. Our schools are crippled when it comes to that. It's so much paperwork, there's not much they can do, the parents refuse to admit their precious angel punched out another kid with brass knuckles, or that their joy and delight acts like an ignorant fool and is failing. Why are private and charter schools nice? They can kick out the ignorant trash that doesn't want to be there. They can kick out the ignorant trash who beat up the smart kids for doing well in school.

But I still agree that with the idea of a charter or private school for talented kids. We dumb down so much, we spend so much time bringing people up to the baseline that the smart kids get left behind.


Hallelujah and Amen! My thoughts exactly.


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19 Nov 2012, 11:17 am

thewhitrbbit wrote:
The idea that you can just throw money at schools and get better educational results is flawed.

Education requires will and desire to learn. Education requires parents who will address behavioral problems. Education requires parents who will be involved.

You can't buy those things with money.

Another big problem is the way our educational system is set up. We prepare everyone for college. We under fund vocational tech schools. There's no greater example than on Little People Big World. The oldest son was a GENIUS at auto repair. Absolute genius, but instead of getting his son enrolled in a program to become a master auto tech, his father was pushing him to get a degree from the Warton School of Business. Ridiculous.

I think there are kids who would greatly benefit from vocational tech.

And the last remaining problem is discipline. Our schools are crippled when it comes to that. It's so much paperwork, there's not much they can do, the parents refuse to admit their precious angel punched out another kid with brass knuckles, or that their joy and delight acts like an ignorant fool and is failing. Why are private and charter schools nice? They can kick out the ignorant trash that doesn't want to be there. They can kick out the ignorant trash who beat up the smart kids for doing well in school.

But I still agree that with the idea of a charter or private school for talented kids. We dumb down so much, we spend so much time bringing people up to the baseline that the smart kids get left behind.
Although some of this can be resulting from the fact of parents not having time to properly raise children some still fail to raise them and never question themselves.



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19 Nov 2012, 2:58 pm

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Although some of this can be resulting from the fact of parents not having time to properly raise children some still fail to raise them and never question themselves.


Yes. And also the fact that you have 19 year olds with 2 children.