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10 Oct 2017, 7:52 pm

Same-sex marriage is now legal all over the United States and it hasn't led to there being more gay people, to people marrying dogs, people marrying corpses or people marrying toasters, all those things that people said would happen if they made same-sex marriage legal.

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10 Oct 2017, 8:00 pm

just wait for the next constitutional convention....

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11 Oct 2017, 12:54 am

It's been legal for over 2 years now.

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11 Oct 2017, 8:37 am

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It's like Watergate, you have to give it lots of time to transpire. And what do you have against my and my toaster being happy?

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11 Oct 2017, 8:42 am

Yeah....and me and my precious kitty cat (though our relationship is Platonic).

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11 Oct 2017, 10:22 am

Jeremy Irons was right ...

‘Could A Father Not Marry His Son?’
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/ ... 09495.html

Now ...

'Father' Marries His 'Son'
http://www.newser.com/story/207464/fath ... mpaign=syn

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11 Oct 2017, 10:30 am

Man....that would be so sick!

But it doesn't mean society is going that way. Because it's not.

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11 Oct 2017, 10:45 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

I don't see why gay marriage would change the rules on incest marrige

Also the people in the second article you posted weren't actually father and son, but since their gay marriage wouldn't be recognized one adopted the other and they posed as father and son legally. Also says the court had to dissolve the adoption for them to marry.

Not even close to the same thing as a biological father and son having an incestual gay relationship.

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11 Oct 2017, 7:22 pm

It is nice to see less s without a just cause.

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11 Oct 2017, 8:54 pm

During my recent visit to Australia, someone said to me: "I'm ashamed to be an Aussie right now. FFS, even Ireland has same sex marriage! New Zealand does, the USA does. I never thought I would see the day that Ireland would make us look so bad".

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11 Oct 2017, 11:50 pm

B19 wrote:

granted, gay marriage is a just and ethical thing as an institution, and a karmically risky thing to oppose for any reason. that said, I have to say i'm ashamed to live in a nation that still treats health care mostly as a privilege of wealth and not a right of citizenship as it is in every other western nation. so in that sense i'd trade places with that ashamed Aussie in a :heart:

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12 Oct 2017, 8:52 am

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It is nice to see less discrimination without a just cause.

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12 Oct 2017, 9:17 am

Sweetleaf wrote:

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The justification for "incest" is to stop "inbreeding".

However, two men can't have a child.

So, this is just discrimination.

Gay marriage makes "adult-father-son-marriage" a civil rights cause.

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16 Oct 2017, 8:01 pm

LoveNotHate wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

The justification for "incest" is to stop "inbreeding".

However, two men can't have a child.

So, this is just discrimination.

Gay marriage makes "adult-father-son-marriage" a civil rights cause.

There's still a power imbalance between, you'd sound less insane attempting to argue 'brother+brother' or 'sister+sister' marriage is a civil rights cause, but only less.

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17 Oct 2017, 12:03 am

funeralxempire wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

The justification for "incest" is to stop "inbreeding".

However, two men can't have a child.

So, this is just discrimination.

Gay marriage makes "adult-father-son-marriage" a civil rights cause.

There's still a power imbalance between, you'd sound less insane attempting to argue 'brother+brother' or 'sister+sister' marriage is a civil rights cause, but only less.

You still need to come up with some legal reason for discrimination other than "it's insane".

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17 Oct 2017, 12:04 am

LoveNotHate wrote:

Sweetleaf wrote:

LoveNotHate wrote:

The justification for "incest" is to stop "inbreeding".

However, two men can't have a child.

So, this is just discrimination.

Gay marriage makes "adult-father-son-marriage" a civil rights cause.

Always thought the incest examples were funny, but not the main problem. The "slippery slope" of gay marriage will of course lead to such ridiculous things but the most worrying one would be polygamy. Such "marriages" can easily be argued on exactly the same grounds as the gay marriage debate was fought on. Lo and behold what did I see on the BBC a few weeks ago? A Muslim asking for legal recognition for polygamous marriages, repeatedly referencing gay marriage. The slippery slope should not always be dismissed as fallacy.

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