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18 Sep 2010, 11:39 pm

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Still doesn't change the fact that you spouted a load of stereotyped racist bollocks


Glad to do my part and fight the system.

I'd like to hear the exact definitions of what actually constitutes 'racism' and 'ignorance?' I can't be ignorant, in the sense that I am not ignorant as to the existance of blacks and other minorities.

Also, what again is the absolute proof that 'all races are equal,' and the only differences are skin color, nose construction, etc. I'd love to see it again, just for everyone's edification.

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Nor that if the whites won all the tactical fights but still lost the "war", it suggests that the inscrutable orientals are actually BETTER at strategic planning than white men, which doesn't really support your whole "Whites are bestest" argument.


I never said the whites won 'All' of the tactial fights, merely a large percentage of them. I agree anyway that the Japanese for example are great at 'planning things,' and have many strengths that translate well on the battlefield. A society with a large population of youth like the Arabs CAN win a struggle by flooding some white country with immigrants................

I think all things considered though, whites are tops when it comes to the military sphere, as well as translating technological advances towards military use.

In any war, sporting match, etc, my money is ALWAYS on the side that is more heavily caucasian. Look at the Chicago Cubs....... A dysfunctional baseball team that loads up on dysfunctional black and Mexican 'superstar' drama queens, and they never get anywhere and sink in their own clubhouse disasters. Same with the New York Yankees over the last decade................. a bloated payroll spent on a bunch of Latino players, only to keep getting bounced in the early rounds of the playoffs. The theme keeps repeating itself as you look at current sports franchises when you have black players dominating the culture of that team.

Look at the current New York Mets......... An overpaid, mostly Dominican team that keeps constantly underperforming....... I wonder why? Lots of these minority 'superstars' have great athletic talent, but they can't function as a team. You put white players together where whites dominate the clubhouse.......... the team fucntions.


And of course sporting events share so much in common with all the wars in history that the example just slips over as easily as if you greased it. I have next to no knowledge (translates as couldn't give a s**t on an epic level) about American sports, but what I do know is that in say, premier football, or international rugby, players come in all creeds and colours, and a lot of them are black or asian or latin-american and bloody good players who win games as TEAMS and not just as individuals.


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18 Sep 2010, 11:41 pm

^ Very well then.............

I can't think of one black-run city, black business(despite being heavily subsidized,) that isn't a model of dysfunction in the USA. And now that Marion Berryesque dysfunction is going to be normative for the whole of the USA in a couple decades. I weep for the future.



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18 Sep 2010, 11:50 pm

White people are better at sports than black people? Bloody hell, you must still be in the 1930s. Have you ever seen a basketball game?


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18 Sep 2010, 11:53 pm

^ Have you ever seen World's Strongest Man?

It seems to me the premise of basketball has much to do with height, not necessarily overall athletic ability. When it comes to real tests of strength, whites dominate at powerlifitng, and other skill sports that are more involved besides monkeying around with a basketball. And what I meant was that whites usually function better in a team setting and are better at mutual cooperation, while the black 'superstars' play only for their own immediate gratification or their drama queen egos.

Look at a 7'7'' guy like Manute Bol............ he's tall and can reach the basket.



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18 Sep 2010, 11:53 pm

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^ Very well then.............

I can't think of one black-run city, black business(despite being heavily subsidized,) that isn't a model of dysfunction in the USA. And now that Marion Berryesque dysfunction is going to be normative for the whole of the USA in a couple decades. I weep for the future.


Maybe its just Americans failing then, because there are businesses etc here run by people of all creeds etc to varying levels of success. Likewise there are whole nations that aren't white that generally do quite well all said. Just like there are some godawful s**t holes run by any race or creed. Seems to me that humanity is too varied to fit neatly into these "Superiority" pigeonholes.


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18 Sep 2010, 11:54 pm

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Wow, that is one of the most offensive rants I've ever seen in public. Manson family all the way.

Indeed. Rather flagrant violation of forum rules too. I think this time Hanotaux has finally crossed the line.

Then debate her on it rather than taking the chicken way out and being like the sheep in "Animal Farm" by screaming racism. I dare you to defeat her views on her own terms. Or can you?


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18 Sep 2010, 11:58 pm

^ Clearly. There is no actual clear definition for what 'racism' is, other than that its been inculcated that 'we are all equal,' and this is absolute dogma. Despite a massive flow of evidence that different people's have different strenghts and unique characteristics.



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19 Sep 2010, 12:15 am

John_Browning wrote:
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Wow, that is one of the most offensive rants I've ever seen in public. Manson family all the way.

Indeed. Rather flagrant violation of forum rules too. I think this time Hanotaux has finally crossed the line.

Then debate her on it rather than taking the chicken way out and being like the sheep in "Animal Farm" by screaming racism. I dare you to defeat her views on her own terms. Or can you?

Why bother? I've done it before, but there is just no arguing with some people. Almost everything Hanotaux has said in his past few posts has just been utterly ridiculous. Easily refutable, but hardly worth the effort to go through point-by-point.

Hanotaux, if you want a definition of racism:
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rac·ism   
[rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
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1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

You certainly meet definitions 1 and 3.

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racism or racialism  (ˈreɪsɪzəm, ˈreɪʃəˌlɪzəm)
 
— n
1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
2. abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief

You meet both of these definitions.

So yes, you are a racist.


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19 Sep 2010, 12:23 am

John_Browning wrote:
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Wow, that is one of the most offensive rants I've ever seen in public. Manson family all the way.

Indeed. Rather flagrant violation of forum rules too. I think this time Hanotaux has finally crossed the line.

Then debate her on it rather than taking the chicken way out and being like the sheep in "Animal Farm" by screaming racism. I dare you to defeat her views on her own terms. Or can you?


Racism to that profound a degree screams of delusion; delusion, by definition, cannot be corrected by reasoned arguments



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19 Sep 2010, 12:26 am

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Why bother? I've done it before, but there is just no arguing with some people. Almost everything Hanotaux has said in his past few posts has just been utterly ridiculous. Easily refutable, but hardly worth the effort to go through point-by-point.


Ah yes, you've been singing the same tune for years.......


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So yes, you are a racist.


OK...........

Not sure why I should feel offended though TBH. The whole idea of racism is an artificial construct anyway that was created by elitist professors who were looking to diffuse nationalism.

Its every bit as natural to feel nationalistic pride, and pride in one's own race, as it is to support your favorite sports team.

You usually don't know why you like your favorite team besides the fact that they represent your area, or mabye you just like the team's colors or history.

I see nothing wrong therefore about having a natural bias in favor of one's own race.

Besides that, there are many legitimate reasons to be opposed to blacks, muslims, etc.

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Pretty much the whole contemporary constructs of Anti-racism, diversity, etc, are pretty much the exact same as the Nazi idealogy, but flip-flopped.................... Instead of the Aryan master race, substitute blacks and muslims............... Constant assiduous effort in education to enforce tolerance and a diverse environment, as opposed to a unicultural environment............ Peer pressure, ridicule, loss of employment, and possibly criminal charges against anyone who dissents.

Its really kind of the exact same, but just turned on its head, and applied more subtly.



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19 Sep 2010, 12:54 am

Besides, I find it beyond hilarious that on a thread about a "pink-faced half-wit," and festooned with loads of insults directed at conservatives, tea-partiers, etc, that you fussy-liberals can get SOOOO upset about critical 'racism' directed against your precious sensitive favored peoples. I'd hate to offend their hair-trigger sensitivities or possibly in any way dare suggest that they aren't the center of the universe and may actually be subject to some review. I'd hate to dare ruffle any Islamic feathers........ we know how absolutely precious they are.


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has since been employed by nearly every pink-faced, intellectually corrupt piece of sh** as*hole to open his fat, disgusting pig mouth since. .........................

"These jowly nitwits are characterized by their false sense of moral superiority


Funny that the OP can throw out obvious insulting nonsense like above^ and no one bats an eye, but any "racism," and you get Orwell the forum-cop all over you screaming 'racism.'



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19 Sep 2010, 12:59 am

Orwell wrote:
Dictionary.com wrote:
rac·ism   
[rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
–noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

You certainly meet definitions 1 and 3.

For number 3: There wasn't much that you could reasonably expect someone to tolerate in the other races she grew up around, and yeah, you can reasonably expect those life experiences to make an impression on someone.

Orwell wrote:
World English Dictionary wrote:
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racism or racialism  (ˈreɪsɪzəm, ˈreɪʃəˌlɪzəm)
 
— n
1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
2. abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief

You meet both of these definitions.

So yes, you are a racist.

She is not a racist for for pointing out obvious omissions from psychology and genetics. The scientific research she refers to in her claims of hereditary differences was arbitrarily abandoned in favor of political correctness 45 years ago. All she is doing is making observances, and when required, calling them on bad behavior. That's about as abusive as confronting a drunk who always wants to "borrow" money from you about their problem.


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The scientific research she refers to in her claims of hereditary differences was arbitrarily abandoned in favor of political correctness 45 years ago


Absolutely correct, the book was arbitrarily closed on all official sanctioned discussion into these issues several decades ago. You are basically a heretic(as seen on this thread,) if you dare try to contradict the PC-inquisition.

Anyway, I don't understand why people like Orwell should feel so offended by criticism of blacks and muslims, when it seems commonplace to throw around far more virulent insults and stereotypes against Christians, conservatives etc........

but it just goes to show that the 'tolerant' people are really massive hypocrites and no better than anyone else. They tolerate what they like, conform to the agenda. and bash that which they don't. They don't practice true tolerance, in the sense that they tolerate Everybody. They only present a thin veneer of tolerance that is bolstered by constant effusive declarations of absolute fawning over certain ethnic minorities, but behind this is a load of reverse racism and bigotry, as displayed by the OP's post on this thread.

All that you are seeing here is a massive ironic conformity to the counter-culture.



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19 Sep 2010, 3:56 am

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... Almost everything Hanotaux has said in his past few posts has just been utterly ridiculous. Easily refutable, but hardly worth the effort to go through point-by-point.

He's just articulating a point of view held by a large proportion of the white population of the US and Europe. The evidence for what he says is plain to see in any "culturally diverse" urban setting. Moreover, there's a good scientific base for some of it, too. Check out how testosterone levels are on average higher in certain racial groups. This appears to be an undisputed fact, yet strangely (or perhaps all-things-considered it's not so strange) I've never seen this brought into the debate by the mainstream media. Then there's the racial IQ isssue we've discussed previously.

Anyway, it seems the US education system is doing well in its indoctrination of you, Orwell. You appear to become more rabidly liberal as the months pass. Despite you studying a science you cannot seem to see beyond poverty being the cause of all society's problems. As for myself, I'm glad I live in an area where the indigenous British are, for the time being at least, in the majority.



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19 Sep 2010, 4:01 am

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...but it just goes to show that the 'tolerant' people are really massive hypocrites and no better than anyone else...

Well said. The most intolerant people on this forum are nearly always liberals. When they get nowhere with rational debate all they have is the "racist" accusation and a scream to a mod for breach of ToS.