Nation Once Again Comes Under Sway Of Pink-Faced Half-Wit

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19 Sep 2010, 11:53 am

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The scientific research she refers to in her claims of hereditary differences was arbitrarily abandoned in favor of political correctness 45 years ago


Absolutely correct, the book was arbitrarily closed on all official sanctioned discussion into these issues several decades ago. You are basically a heretic(as seen on this thread,) if you dare try to contradict the PC-inquisition.

Anyway, I don't understand why people like Orwell should feel so offended by criticism of blacks and muslims, when it seems commonplace to throw around far more virulent insults and stereotypes against Christians, conservatives etc........

but it just goes to show that the 'tolerant' people are really massive hypocrites and no better than anyone else. They tolerate what they like, conform to the agenda. and bash that which they don't. They don't practice true tolerance, in the sense that they tolerate Everybody. They only present a thin veneer of tolerance that is bolstered by constant effusive declarations of absolute fawning over certain ethnic minorities, but behind this is a load of reverse racism and bigotry, as displayed by the OP's post on this thread.

All that you are seeing here is a massive ironic conformity to the counter-culture.


Its not as if any of your ridiculous claims about race superiority or lack thereof have any basis in science. You over-generalize massively, ignore great wads of evidence, and certainly haven't applied any of your "theories" in a scientific manner.


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19 Sep 2010, 11:59 am

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Wow, that is one of the most offensive rants I've ever seen in public. Manson family all the way.

Indeed. Rather flagrant violation of forum rules too. I think this time Hanotaux has finally crossed the line.

Then debate her on it rather than taking the chicken way out and being like the sheep in "Animal Farm" by screaming racism. I dare you to defeat her views on her own terms. Or can you?


Yeah, been doing that. Got dull after a while. Went on to sports (yawn) and when the sports argument fell down went on to business (yawn). Who can be bothered to wait for the next area where blacks suck and whites rule which wont actually be accurate and then the next one ad nauseum?


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19 Sep 2010, 1:21 pm

Macbeth wrote:
John_Browning wrote:
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Wow, that is one of the most offensive rants I've ever seen in public. Manson family all the way.

Indeed. Rather flagrant violation of forum rules too. I think this time Hanotaux has finally crossed the line.

Then debate her on it rather than taking the chicken way out and being like the sheep in "Animal Farm" by screaming racism. I dare you to defeat her views on her own terms. Or can you?


Yeah, been doing that. Got dull after a while. Went on to sports (yawn) and when the sports argument fell down went on to business (yawn). Who can be bothered to wait for the next area where blacks suck and whites rule which wont actually be accurate and then the next one ad nauseum?


And, based on my quiet observations from the land of Lurkerdom, it's hard to "debate" a person when they want to dismiss your views as being those of a "brain-washed liberal" and then complain when you dismiss their views as "racist."

Just sayin'. :twisted:


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19 Sep 2010, 1:37 pm

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Its not as if any of your ridiculous claims about race superiority or lack thereof have any basis in science. You over-generalize massively, ignore great wads of evidence, and certainly haven't applied any of your "theories" in a scientific manner.


Not really............ most of the time, besides screaming 'racist' in an attempt to refute, and offering cheeseball definitions of racism, usually the only refutation comes not from scientific theories that uphold the leftist point of view, but from constant anecdotal experiences.............. It seems all that really happens are that liberals quote their own experiences with diversity and then expect that positive experience to hold up for everybody. Just because one person had a good experience in their diverse school or their multiracial sports club, that doesn't mean that that same experience will apply to the whole population(but congrats on being happy in your situation..) Mostly 95% of the liberal 'refutations' I've seen have been nothing but anecdotal remarks about their own positive experiences with diversity, not any concrete evidence that multiculturalism is somehow naturally and automatically the superior paradigm.

Besides that, the book was closed on the actual discussions into the definitions of racism, eugenics, etc, several years ago, and the educational elite refuses to permit any revisionism or questioning into these.

If those 'scary conservatives' on Fox News were really trying to scare white people, I think they'd be constantly talking about the demographic changes, showing urban schools with like 10% white pupils, etc. But you almost never see this or any serious conservative questioning of the leftist position on these matters.



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19 Sep 2010, 2:03 pm

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Its not as if any of your ridiculous claims about race superiority or lack thereof have any basis in science. You over-generalize massively, ignore great wads of evidence, and certainly haven't applied any of your "theories" in a scientific manner.


Not really............ most of the time, besides screaming 'racist' in an attempt to refute, and offering cheeseball definitions of racism, usually the only refutation comes not from scientific theories that uphold the leftist point of view, but from constant anecdotal experiences.............. It seems all that really happens are that liberals quote their own experiences with diversity and then expect that positive experience to hold up for everybody. Just because one person had a good experience in their diverse school or their multiracial sports club, that doesn't mean that that same experience will apply to the whole population(but congrats on being happy in your situation..) Mostly 95% of the liberal 'refutations' I've seen have been nothing but anecdotal remarks about their own positive experiences with diversity, not any concrete evidence that multiculturalism is somehow naturally and automatically the superior paradigm.

Besides that, the book was closed on the actual discussions into the definitions of racism, eugenics, etc, several years ago, and the educational elite refuses to permit any revisionism or questioning into these.

If those 'scary conservatives' on Fox News were really trying to scare white people, I think they'd be constantly talking about the demographic changes, showing urban schools with like 10% white pupils, etc. But you almost never see this or any serious conservative questioning of the leftist position on these matters.


Lets be clear. Personally I think Multiculturalism (with a big M) is a flawed concept that only worsens relations between races and ethnicities. Being forced to be "diverse" is counter-productive. However, "culture" is not "race", and understanding that other people have their own ways is not the same as enforced multiculturalism. Declaring that a given race is simply less able or another race is superior at a given task is overgeneralised bullshit on a par with deciding that all Autistics can count cards.


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19 Sep 2010, 2:10 pm

Was the Onion poking fun at liberal media? I noticed they were very cautious and calculated to write an entire article without saying anything at all.



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19 Sep 2010, 3:59 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Was the Onion poking fun at liberal media? I noticed they were very cautious and calculated to write an entire article without saying anything at all.


I suppose one could look at it that way.
Alternatively, it could just be a way of criticising conservatives in a way that is less likely to be challenged than if similar sentiments were expressed in a "serious" paper.

I guess The Onion offers something for everyone!

I remember reading an Onion "article" about the progress made my female professionals in recent years entitled "New Study Shows Progress Made By Broads". I couldn't tell if it was supposed to be a satire of sexists or a dig at feminists, but it was pretty funny anyway.



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19 Sep 2010, 4:29 pm

Hanotaux wrote:

If those 'scary conservatives' on Fox News were really trying to scare white people, I think they'd be constantly talking about the demographic changes, showing urban schools with like 10% white pupils, etc. But you almost never see this or any serious conservative questioning of the leftist position on these matters.


This is a good point. I am in the UK, so I only see glimpses of the American scene, but I get the impression that the likes of Fox News never question racial egalitarian dogma, or even suggest that Whites might like to form advocacy groups in the same way that Blacks and Hispanics do. The likes of Fox News appeal implicitly to Whites with talk about the founding fathers, self-reliance and fighting terrorism, so large numbers of Whites watch Fox News and vote Republican, and when the Republicans get in the cosmopolitanisation of America continues. And yet liberals cannot seem to appreciate this fact, and are still full of loathing for the likes of Fox News for their supposed "racism".

Having said all that, I suppose if the UK were to have a channel like Fox News, I would welcome it as a step in the right direction. The modern British idea of a "conservative" includes people like David Cameron, who is really just a dripping wet liberal. I think the closest thing we've had recently to a US-style conservative radio host was a useless loudmouth called Jon Gaunt.

I hear that Glenn Beck is Fox's most un-PC character. Perhaps he "knows" more than he lets on. I've even heard it suggested that his Restoring Honor Rally might even have been a clever PR stunt aimed at awakening confused Tea Partiers: they turn up, venerate Martin Luther King, and still the liberals spew forth their bile at them.



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19 Sep 2010, 5:19 pm

If you watch local Fox news here in the USA, all they really do is report crime as it actually happens, be it minority crime or white crime.......... often its minority crime and liberals don't like seeing it publicized on television, as it conflicts with the propaganda image of model minorities and diversity that they like to present. White suburban crime generates good ratings though and Fox local news covers this assiduously, at least in St. Louis.

I agree that national Fox News DOES consistently present a conservative viewpoint, but they play it safe and stick with things like fighting terrorism, campaign finance reform, and issues that stay away from racial/cultural things and the changing demographics.