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15 Sep 2010, 12:10 am

And why is it that white people get slapped with gun control laws because of minorities actions with them? It's not that our fault that most gun-related crimes involve minorities. It's not our fault most of them cannot physically or mentally deal with them in an evolved way.


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15 Sep 2010, 12:39 am

I see nothing desirable at all about a future 'vibrant' diverse culture, as the present hints of it now seem to be merely nothing but a bunch of screaming clowns jumping about in garish outfits, singing about jacking hos and busting a cap and whatever........

Even when the Irish and Italians were supposedly going to breed out WASPS with their 'inferior stock,' (as Orwell suggests).... their cultures weren't propegating such violent sub-artistic filth on a massive scale. I see nothing good to come from a future bi-racial population of MTV wigger drones that follows an instant-gratification culture.

This country actually had a pretty damn good culture when it was 85-90% white. It was running pretty smoothly the way it was but the social engineers just couldn't let well enough alone. I think the seeds of the white 'self-hate' we see now were largely planted by the pervasive anti-German/Aryan propaganda that was disseminated after WWII. Many of the Jewish psychiatrists and sociologists were convinced that an ethnically monolithic white country could never exist again with a population that was more than 90% white, as it would just be too strong to be part of the world equilibrium and just run out of control without a proper minority population to bring it down. Strong minority voting blocs would emerge to provide a strong check to nationalism.

In the schools, new liberal educators would wipe away any old thoughts of Nationalism or ethnic loyalty, at least with white students. Instead, the youth would be indoctrinated to adhere to "the human race." They would say sycophantically whenever such issues came up, "We are all the human race........... I am colorblind," etc............... This would have been fine in theory except these same educators promoted an agressive new ethnic nationalism in the black minorities. A terrible double-standard was kept up for years where blacks were allowed to have their own aggressive exceptionalism and still unite into strong militarized groups. This will likely be the source of the eventual eradication of the white population by 'Obama youth squads,' Decades later. Whites are trained to be the Eloi, and blacks/Muslims the Morlocks.

But I see nothing desireable with the serene European culture being infused wth the tacky and hyper-socialized exotic cultures. Both Europeans and all of the minorities should be preserved as unique peoples in their homelands.



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15 Sep 2010, 12:44 am

You're both crazy racists.


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15 Sep 2010, 12:48 am

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You're both crazy racists.


That is a badge of honor in this world, where one is expected to conform to being a non-conformist.

The old Irish, Italians and Slavs who so scared the nativists 1 century ago had cultures far more serene and pleasing than what we see today with the "gangster culture.' And the Mafias pale in comparision to what we see today with "50 cent." That is how the current resistance to diversity differs from what you see in the previous alarmists.

Anyway...........



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15 Sep 2010, 12:52 am

And you don't even know history. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.


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15 Sep 2010, 12:58 am

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And you don't even know history. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised.


Awww. Oh really? What specific facts don't I know? What did I state incorrectly? Please don't dodge the question.

Its a common liberal tactic anyway to state that someone "doesn't know history." By this they mean that their opponent apparently did not get properly brainwashed.



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15 Sep 2010, 1:25 am

It is not worthwhile attempting to have a discussion with someone so determined to be ignorant. Accuse me of liberal elitism if you want; I don't really care what you think of me. You can keep your Jewish conspiracy theories and your silly delusions about previous ethnic conflicts in this country. You disgust me.


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15 Sep 2010, 1:34 am

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It is not worthwhile attempting to have a discussion with someone so determined to be ignorant. Accuse me of liberal elitism if you want; I don't really care what you think of me. You can keep your Jewish conspiracy theories and your silly delusions about previous ethnic conflicts in this country. You disgust me.


Obviously I called you out on the fact that you can not actually state what history I am ignorant of.

Clearly you have nothing more than buzzwords. I figured then after being exposed you'd make some statement about being above such a discussion.



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15 Sep 2010, 2:19 am

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You're both crazy racists.

Screaming "racist" is a coward's way of trying to berate someone without engaging someone in a dialogue about what is supposedly so "racist". It is used so often it lacks any meaning. It's a way of telling someone to shut up by suggesting they are guilty of some undefined thought crime. The term "racist" does not differentiate between publicly calling for the extermination of the Jews or simply saying something like "holy crap those Mexican laborers stink" when you are at Home Depot. Both could be called racist by some, but the two comments are worlds apart in motive and they and any other race-related comment that someone disagrees with are lumped together to portray you as something you are not so that others won't like your views. I had to learn this in middle school and luckily I learned not to care about being called a "racist", "bigot", "homophobe", or any other similar label in middle school too. It's sad to see people being cowed by such a meaningless word.

If being called a racist means I had to stick to my values in the face of strong opposition, then I take it as a compliment. :)


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15 Sep 2010, 2:42 am

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Screaming "racist" is a coward's way of trying to berate someone without engaging someone in a dialogue about what is supposedly so "racist". It is used so often it lacks any meaning. It's a way of telling someone to shut up by suggesting they are guilty of some undefined thought crime...........I had to learn this in middle school and luckily I learned not to care about being called a "racist", "bigot", "homophobe", or any other similar label in middle school too. It's sad to see people being cowed by such a meaningless word.

If being called a racist means I had to stick to my values in the face of strong opposition, then I take it as a compliment.


^ Exactly. That was stated perfectly.

The whole ideas of racism and ignorance are artificial constructs. Even calling someone 'ignorant' doesn't specifiy any specific ignorance.

When I was in middle school and high school, it was common ebonics slang for black kids, and white kids who wanted to be black to often casually throw out the phrase "You Ignorant" (of course they used incorrect lazy grammar and substituted 'You' for 'Your.')........

But the point is that even the unaware manipulated youths were using those buzzwords just as a matter of course, as a reaction to the slightest thing that did not please them. Anything that offended them even slightly was "ignorant."

They would also say "You be a hater." That was another one they'd always use whenever anyone dared criticize their primordial lifestyle or just generally crossed them in anyway. They always had such a hair-trigger response to anything they perceived as the slightest provocation. You could never 'step on their turf,' and if you were white, you couldn't even look them in the eye without expecting a huge reaction, as if you were somehow their master trying to reimpose slavery on them......... It was all about gang wars with eachother, and getting even with whites and 'the man,' and just generally causing as much trouble within the system as possible.

Even the teachers who didn't cater to them had only the most superficial control. To the black students, white kids were 2nd class at best to them, and useful only as a drug market or a breeding-farm to provide a harem of white girls to ogle and play grab-ass with.

(btw, most teachers in the school generally indulged all of this nonsense. They were products of the idealistic flower-power era where just a little bit of love would do the trick....... they had 2 separate sets of unofficial rules for white and minority students.)

Of course, if you dared call them out on anything or even suggest you couldn't understand their rudimentary ebonics, then you were a 'hater.'



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15 Sep 2010, 6:53 am

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Let's not parse words here. When you say "people", what you actually mean is a very specific demographic of people: WASPs, for the most part, right? The white, Christian, largely affluent core of society, which has historically always been in control, and clings desperately to the status quo because they believe it's the only way to maintain their dominance?


Have you ever visited America? I'm doubting the possibility that you may have.


Visited? I am an American. Said it in my post. Lived in New Jersey, Georgia, and Florida for a total of more than 20 years, before moving to Canada.


So, where did you ever develop the impression that "The white, Christian, largely affluent core of society, [...] has historically always been in control, and clings desperately to the status quo because they believe it's the only way to maintain their dominance"? Such has not been my experience, residing in Texas and Minnesota.



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15 Sep 2010, 12:26 pm

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Really, i'm not telling you what its like in Canada, but please correct me if I am wrong about the prosecution existing I described above?


You are wrong.

There are two famous cases in Canada that have revolved around Holocaust denial in Canada: Jim Keegstra and Ernst Zundel

Keegstra was prosecuted because he taught a secondary school class that the Holocaust was a fraud and that Jews, as a class of people, had a variety of characteristics.

The Supreme Court of Canada wrote:
Mr. Keegstra's teachings attributed various evil qualities to Jews. He thus described Jews to his pupils as "treacherous", "subversive", "sadistic", "money-loving", "power hungry" and "child killers". He taught his classes that Jewish people seek to destroy Christianity and are responsible for depressions, anarchy, chaos, wars and revolution. According to Mr. Keegstra, Jews "created the Holocaust to gain sympathy" and, in contrast to the open and honest Christians, were said to be deceptive, secretive and inherently evil. Mr. Keegstra expected his students to reproduce his teachings in class and on exams. If they failed to do so, their marks suffered.
---R. v. Keegstra [1990] 3 S.C.R. 697, per Dickson, C.J.C. at para 3


In short, Keegstra was not prosecuted for his beliefs, he was prosecuted for imposing those beliefs on others, with a clear intent of promoting hatred by those others of an identifiable class.

Ernst Zundel, on the other hand, was never convicted in Canada. He was tried for "spreading false news" under section 181 of the Criminal Code. His first conviction was overturned on procedural grounds. His second conviction, at retrial, was overturned when the Supreme Court of Canada found section 181 to be unconstitutional.

Zundel (who never became a Canadian citizen) overstayed his visa status in the United States, and then, because his permanent residence in Canada had lapsed, made a refugee claim in Canada that was refused. He was made the subject of a security certificate due to his links to neo-Nazi organizations and was deported to Germany, his country of nationality.

You are perfectly free to be a Holocaust denier in Canada. It is when you cross the line into the wilful promotion of hatred that you offend public law.


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15 Sep 2010, 1:39 pm

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Scurred silly topic

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15 Sep 2010, 2:08 pm

The US and us topic

I find it very disheartening that the United States has always been a very Black and White argument, and then organizing into viligilante groups of all stripes. I have often wondered if part of the reason is so many States (50 in all) all vying for their own little patch of Eden.
With many of the laws being so ambiguous the interpretations are bound to be very hairsplitting and numerous. I find this all very confusing. I suppose others have seen this as well. I think this makes for personalities such as Glenn Beck, Charles Coughlin, Louis Ferrakhan, Sarah Palin, Fred Phelps, and the pastor who wanted to burn the Qur'an--these people are very rigid right wing thinkers of various political viewpoints. Even one of these personalities seems to bring out others who are either like them and join their group or there is an equally opposite character/group, and the ensuing result is violence--along with weapons and such.

A sad States of affairs. :? Hardly United.


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The US and us topic

I find it very disheartening that the United States has always been a very Black and White argument, and then organizing into viligilante groups of all stripes. I have often wondered if part of the reason is so many States (50 in all) all vying for their own little patch of Eden.
With many of the laws being so ambiguous the interpretations are bound to be very hairsplitting and numerous. I find this all very confusing. I suppose others have seen this as well. I think this makes for personalities such as Glenn Beck, Charles Coughlin, Louis Ferrakhan, Sarah Palin, Fred Phelps, and the pastor who wanted to burn the Qur'an--these people are very rigid right wing thinkers of various political viewpoints. Even one of these personalities seems to bring out others who are either like them and join their group or there is an equally opposite character/group, and the ensuing result is violence--along with weapons and such.

A sad States of affairs. :? Hardly United.


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