Obama approval hits new low

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when you deliberately insult large numbers of people, then say they shouldn't be offended over it, that is akin to peeing on somebody else's leg then telling them it's only raining.

Right-wingers perceive him as such, rightly or wrongly, and the question was why right-wingers might dislike him so much.

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Last edited by marshall on 29 Sep 2010, 3:29 am, edited 2 times in total.

I take offense and argue about it, but I don't get all butthurt about it the way you get every time I reply to you.

That's one of my biggest reasons to avoid foreign travel- I don't want to deal with that crap.

As for Obama, he's extremely liberal. He made tons of super liberal campaign promises, and old writings and public statements of his are extremely liberal. The only reason why he isn't pushing more liberal policies is because he is too weak of a leader to get them passed even with a democratic supermajority in congress. Yeah he got his stimulus package and Obamacare passed, but not only did he use up too much public support to get anything else done, but he ended up costing a lot of democratic senators and congressmen their jobs. He won't be able to do anything "progressive" now.

You must be using that term loosely. Notice most Obama bashers resort to name calling when they can't think of a valid point. "Socialist" is a favorite. It's like a broken record.

Flaming liberal? You people just have no clue.

Half of the plan doesn't involve any extra spending and in the long run universal health care may actually lower costs. The US pays more on a per capita basis for health care than any country with a government system, and that is by a large margin. Also, part of the bill is merely meant to regulate the insurance industry so they can't screw people around. But the republicans want to completely repeal the bill. They want insurance companies to run the show like it's always been even though it clearly doesn't work and is incredibly unjust, I might even say barbaric, to people who get sick and can't work or afford treatment.


When was the last time this country was attacked by a foreign power? There's no country on earth that stands even the slightest chance against the military power of the US through conventional means. Terrorism doesn't count because there is no way our country can defend itself against terrorism with conventional military means. You can't simply bomb and invade religious extremists out of existence.

I could say the same to you as for being out of touch with reality. Maybe you would also be a bit more emotional if you actually had to deal with some major s**t in the real world.

Also, why do you conservatives always think you are so "tough" and "level headed". You're not. You get just as whiny and emotional about the scary "big government" that's going to somehow come and take away your precious freedoms by raising taxes on the rich and giving people more affordable health care. At least liberals get upset over real concerns rather than fake paranoid fears drummed up by the likes of Glen Beck.

You're ideas are neither sound nor rational. Everything you believe comes from a naive black-and-white perspective. You're incapable of seeing nuances. You only get the impression that you're position isn't an extremist one because right-wing people make so much noise and drown out everything else. The democrats are actually the centrists. There is no true left-wing party in the US.

Would you dare say that directly to my face?

Real people are negatively affected by the shitty healthcare system in this country. I know people who've literally had their lives ruined by it. There is a reason I get emotional about it. It drives me nuts seeing how many people in this country are so grossly ignorant and misinformed.

That's because they've latched onto a meme. All the knowledge they obtain comes from others others who are infected with the same meme. There's no actual depth of thought involved.

I think there are certain conservatives who actually have a rotten spiteful streak buried deep within their lizard brains and this is why they so fervently latch onto the meme. This can be seen through their thinly veiled hatred for people less fortunate than them. I mean, look at some callous attitudes displayed in ***this*** thread.

"for the first time in my adult life...i am proud of being a new york knicks."

Marshall wrote:

Absolutely yes.

Be my guest. Where the f**k do you live?

youre not a pleasant guy to be around with, are you?

I'm pleasent around others who are pleasent.



Hanotaux came out of the red shaker.

So you're faulting me for having low self-esteem, which isn't exactly something I can control?