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Hardly. I have scars from being a cutter and tried to kill myself more than once. The numbness was a sign of clinical depression, and when it did lighten up, I couldn't deal with the emotions that surfaced.

That is rather trying. I hope you find an effective way of dealing with your woes.

ruveyn

I'm fine now. My point was that as humans, we cannot ignore our emotions, nor should we accept it when they seem to just vanish.

That we can't. Unfortunately we need some emotion to keep on our toes and be aware of danger (the emotion of fear and unease) and we need to have emotions to reproduce our kind (sexual lust and feeling for family and children). If we were automatons we would be extinct in two generations.

Zero emotions work for the Vulcans but not for the Humans.

ruveyn

Absolutely. And vulcanizing humans is not a popular process.

I think logic is just as valid as emotion. Both need to be balanced really.

Emotion, per se will not produce fruitful scientific hypotheses. On the other hand pure logic will not produce them either.

ruveyn

Yah, Aspies are like Spock, half human and half vulcan. lol ...no just one type of human.

Ok, after reading through the texts presented to me, i believe my real question at the time of writing this post was, the fact i have the problems, but i would like to start going through my life with emotion but, not to the point where it depresses the living $#!t out of me, and i would like to go through with the logic to excel as far as possible, never mind what i said in my original post, i have to figure a way to balance my life out so i may leave this dark age behind me, I've been told that putting happy thoughts into my life is the best thing right now, i am currently really negative do any of you believe this to be true?

Use logic to manage your emotions.

Emotions aren't anti-logic, emotions are just phenomenon like any other phenomenon.

Learn more about emotions and you'll know how to logic them away when they're bad.

I've gotten better at it since I started using logic to turn off negative emotions but it takes work. Occassionally I'll forget to do it, or won't even realize I'm feeling stressed for a while. I know how I'm feeling but the word attribution doesn't always come into play right away and then if the word isn't attributed I can't think to start the logical process. But once I recognize I'm feeling "stressed" or "angry" or what ever I can start thinking about why we even experience that emotion in the first place according to what physical processes it is priming me for and whether I really need it and if "no" I can turn it off.

I see no reason to get rid of positive emotions. The logical point of positive emotions is to feel positive.

Easy to say. Not easy to do.

ruveyn

Logic is usually useful to attain the goals prescribed by your emotions.

Logic, rationality and reason topic

One way to start becoming more rational, reasonable and logical is to not jump to conclusions, and weighing the validity of an argument/statement/premise ebore responding with agreement or disagreement. Think before speaking, writing, etc. this advice works for me.

I don't know about that. Clinical depression doesn't really stem from an excessive regard for emotion. If anything, people who bubble with excessive (from my pov) emotion and sentimentality tend to be less depressed. They have a full life while I feel empty inside with all my stark realism.

In my case, trying to reduce the world to logic only reinforces my state of being in a negative mental rut. Logic and reason can start to seem pretty austere, harsh, and cruel if you indulge in it for too long. A lot of the basic truths of life are rather unpleasant to our psyche and there's really no way get around this using reason. The only real trick I know is to distract myself from negativity. If I'm in a depressed mood, allowing myself too much unstructured time to sit and think only makes it worse.

I have been emotionally numb, and I have been numb and depressed; the two are not the same.

As far as learning to control emotions, I suspect meditation is more helpful than logic.

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