Peak Oil and Population reduction
DarthMetaKnight wrote:
I hope everyone except a few people go into space so I can live amongst the animals.
You don't have to wait for the space migration for that; you could just move into a low income neighborhood.
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Vigilans wrote:
Fair enough,
When I'm done terraforming Mars though, you're still invited
When I'm done terraforming Mars though, you're still invited
Oh, please ... by then I'll probably have forgotten how to read ... I'll also have forgotten that there was ever such a thing as reading.
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DarthMetaKnight wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Fair enough,
When I'm done terraforming Mars though, you're still invited
When I'm done terraforming Mars though, you're still invited
Oh, please ... by then I'll probably have forgotten how to read ... I'll also have forgotten that there was ever such a thing as reading.
No reading? I can't even imagine
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ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Mars would be pretty neat, but orbital structures would be far more interesting to me. It might be easier to construct a starladder on Mars than on Earth though.
You seem to have a conceptual problem with Keplerian motion.
ruveyn
I was considering fuel costs, but what's the deal with orbital mechanics?
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Mars would be pretty neat, but orbital structures would be far more interesting to me. It might be easier to construct a starladder on Mars than on Earth though.
You seem to have a conceptual problem with Keplerian motion.
ruveyn
I was considering fuel costs, but what's the deal with orbital mechanics?
It is impossible to build a spoke from the sun that passes straight through earth to mars.
The inner planets revolve faster than the outer planets. See Kepler's Third Law.
ruveyn
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Mars would be pretty neat, but orbital structures would be far more interesting to me. It might be easier to construct a starladder on Mars than on Earth though.
You seem to have a conceptual problem with Keplerian motion.
ruveyn
I was considering fuel costs, but what's the deal with orbital mechanics?
It is impossible to build a spoke from the sun that passes straight through earth to mars.
The inner planets revolve faster than the outer planets. See Kepler's Third Law.
ruveyn
I wasn't suggesting a starladder connecting the two planets, rather I think it might be easier (once we're finally able to colonize Mars anyhow) to build a starladder (i.e., a space-elevator) on Mars than it would be to build one on Earth.
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Mars would be pretty neat, but orbital structures would be far more interesting to me. It might be easier to construct a starladder on Mars than on Earth though.
You seem to have a conceptual problem with Keplerian motion.
ruveyn
I was considering fuel costs, but what's the deal with orbital mechanics?
It is impossible to build a spoke from the sun that passes straight through earth to mars.
The inner planets revolve faster than the outer planets. See Kepler's Third Law.
ruveyn
I wasn't suggesting a starladder connecting the two planets, rather I think it might be easier (once we're finally able to colonize Mars anyhow) to build a starladder (i.e., a space-elevator) on Mars than it would be to build one on Earth.
Or, in other words, a means to bypass the fuel-inefficient step of launch and instead, have "elevators" that are essentially towers that provide low-orbit docking stations.
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skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Mars would be pretty neat, but orbital structures would be far more interesting to me. It might be easier to construct a starladder on Mars than on Earth though.
You seem to have a conceptual problem with Keplerian motion.
ruveyn
I was considering fuel costs, but what's the deal with orbital mechanics?
It is impossible to build a spoke from the sun that passes straight through earth to mars.
The inner planets revolve faster than the outer planets. See Kepler's Third Law.
ruveyn
I wasn't suggesting a starladder connecting the two planets, rather I think it might be easier (once we're finally able to colonize Mars anyhow) to build a starladder (i.e., a space-elevator) on Mars than it would be to build one on Earth.
Or, in other words, a means to bypass the fuel-inefficient step of launch and instead, have "elevators" that are essentially towers that provide low-orbit docking stations.
That's what a starladder is.
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Mars would be pretty neat, but orbital structures would be far more interesting to me. It might be easier to construct a starladder on Mars than on Earth though.
You seem to have a conceptual problem with Keplerian motion.
ruveyn
I was considering fuel costs, but what's the deal with orbital mechanics?
It is impossible to build a spoke from the sun that passes straight through earth to mars.
The inner planets revolve faster than the outer planets. See Kepler's Third Law.
ruveyn
I wasn't suggesting a starladder connecting the two planets, rather I think it might be easier (once we're finally able to colonize Mars anyhow) to build a starladder (i.e., a space-elevator) on Mars than it would be to build one on Earth.
Or, in other words, a means to bypass the fuel-inefficient step of launch and instead, have "elevators" that are essentially towers that provide low-orbit docking stations.
That's what a starladder is.
I know, I was trying to rephrase it for ruveyn's sake.
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skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Mars would be pretty neat, but orbital structures would be far more interesting to me. It might be easier to construct a starladder on Mars than on Earth though.
You seem to have a conceptual problem with Keplerian motion.
ruveyn
I was considering fuel costs, but what's the deal with orbital mechanics?
It is impossible to build a spoke from the sun that passes straight through earth to mars.
The inner planets revolve faster than the outer planets. See Kepler's Third Law.
ruveyn
I wasn't suggesting a starladder connecting the two planets, rather I think it might be easier (once we're finally able to colonize Mars anyhow) to build a starladder (i.e., a space-elevator) on Mars than it would be to build one on Earth.
Or, in other words, a means to bypass the fuel-inefficient step of launch and instead, have "elevators" that are essentially towers that provide low-orbit docking stations.
That's what a starladder is.
I know, I was trying to rephrase it for ruveyn's sake.
He's mentioned it in another thread, so I think he would know already. I think he just misunderstood what I was trying to say.
Mars would definitely be easier for a space elevator or sky hook type setup. In fact any construction there would be easier just due to the lower gravity, less structural support would be needed, or much lighter support. I find it easier to comprehend a space elevator when thinking of it 'dropping' to the planet rather then as a 'tower'. You could probably use Phobos or Deimos as a counterweight if it were possible to move one of them into an Areosynchronous orbit
Looks like the space fanatics have temporarily hijacked this thread ![]()
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Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
Vigilans wrote:
Mars would definitely be easier for a space elevator or sky hook type setup. In fact any construction there would be easier just due to the lower gravity, less structural support would be needed, or much lighter support. I find it easier to comprehend a space elevator when thinking of it 'dropping' to the planet rather then as a 'tower'. You could probably use Phobos or Deimos as a counterweight if it were possible to move one of them into an Areosynchronous orbit
Looks like the space fanatics have temporarily hijacked this thread
Looks like the space fanatics have temporarily hijacked this thread
Considering space is the only decent longterm answer to both energy and population problems, I consider it a reasonable extension of the original topic.
OP approved.
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