Shampoo Recommendation for Obama Birthers
zer0netgain wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Obama should just release the long form and get over with it. The only reason he would is if he's hiding something or wants this rumor to perpetuate.
Lord Obama was under no legal obligation to do so.
Not true. To run for office, you must prove your eligibility. The form allegedly submitted IS NOT a birth certificate, and it has been thoroughly debunked as a fake on numerous grounds.
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The documentation he submitted got him on the ballot and he was elected. So it was sufficient. No successful court challenge made him ineligible. Case closed. The Birthers have no legal ground to stand on.
ruveyn
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The Birthers have no legal ground to stand on.
The less evidence for conspiracy theories the more evidence, to people like the Birthers
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Vigilans wrote:
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The Birthers have no legal ground to stand on.
The less evidence for conspiracy theories the more evidence, to people like the Birthers
And when there is evidence given against their pet theory, one of them will claim it's faked. The others will seize on this as proof that the evidence has been "debunked", and around and around it goes.
No evidence of their theory being true, of course, is merely proof of how extensive the conspiracy is - this one has to include at least two successive administrations in the state of Hawaii, of opposing political persuasion, as well as several eyewitnesses to Obama's youth and the combined staff at the newspaper in Honolulu (since either the database was changed without a trace, or someone managed to plant a story in 1962, meaning this would have to be a conspiracy stretching back at least as far as the Kennedy presidency...).
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I'm not as well informed as yourself about the whole thing but I find it very distasteful and rather weak & pathetic on the part of Obama's detractors. There are much, much better ways to criticize a President...
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Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do
ruveyn wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Obama should just release the long form and get over with it. The only reason he would is if he's hiding something or wants this rumor to perpetuate.
Lord Obama was under no legal obligation to do so.
Not true. To run for office, you must prove your eligibility. The form allegedly submitted IS NOT a birth certificate, and it has been thoroughly debunked as a fake on numerous grounds.
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The documentation he submitted got him on the ballot and he was elected. So it was sufficient. No successful court challenge made him ineligible. Case closed. The Birthers have no legal ground to stand on.
ruveyn
No. I know this is pointless to you, but if you bother to learn how courts work, you'd realize that the ability to frustrate the rule of law being enforced does not equate to truth.
There have been no successful court challenges because the courts deny those bringing the challenge from moving forward. Judicial stonewalling, not rule of law. Ordinary citizens have the right (and standing) to challenge a candidate/official's eligibility to office. Courts ruling contrary are tossing the rule of law out of the window for political expediency.
ruveyn wrote:
zer0netgain wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Obama should just release the long form and get over with it. The only reason he would is if he's hiding something or wants this rumor to perpetuate.
Lord Obama was under no legal obligation to do so.
Not true. To run for office, you must prove your eligibility. The form allegedly submitted IS NOT a birth certificate, and it has been thoroughly debunked as a fake on numerous grounds.
.
The documentation he submitted got him on the ballot and he was elected. So it was sufficient. No successful court challenge made him ineligible. Case closed. The Birthers have no legal ground to stand on.
ruveyn
Birthers are just as bad as the liberals who kept insisting that the 2000 election or even the 2004 election was fraudulent/illegitimate. All non-partisan investigations I've seen indicate indicate that GWB did in fact win the electoral vote in both elections, sad as it is.
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