Students Hospitalized After Smoking Synthetic Marijuana

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24 Mar 2011, 11:21 am

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Some people also get high by choking themselves... 8O


That works at making orgasms stronger, too.



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24 Mar 2011, 11:29 am

Asp-Z wrote:
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Some people also get high by choking themselves... 8O


That works at making orgasms stronger, too.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_erection


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24 Mar 2011, 11:42 am

skafather84 wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Some people also get high by choking themselves... 8O


That works at making orgasms stronger, too.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_erection


Usually it's done by autoerotic asphyxiation, which, though it can be done relatively safely, is how one British MP died (can't remember his name now), but that death erection thing is an interesting phenomenon too. When you die, isn't it true your bowels release as well? Not such a pleasant thing :P



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24 Mar 2011, 11:46 am

Asp-Z wrote:
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Vigilans wrote:
Some people also get high by choking themselves... 8O


That works at making orgasms stronger, too.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_erection


Usually it's done by autoerotic asphyxiation, which, though it can be done relatively safely, is how one British MP died (can't remember his name now), but that death erection thing is an interesting phenomenon too. When you die, isn't it true your bowels release as well? Not such a pleasant thing :P


Yep. Bowels are most definitely released postmortem.

But back to the subject: they fail to really go much farther into the description but from the sounds of it, the kids ingested too much, were overwhelmed by how high they were and one spazzed out while the others were just turning green. Sounds more like a problem of ignorance than a problem with the substance itself. If it's the same MJ synthetic that I've used, it's safe but you have to watch how much you consume or you'll definitely feel ill and tweaked out. I don't really see it as much different from kids who tried to sneak too much booze to drink. If you're consuming a substance that intoxicates, too much will always ruin your day and responsibility and moderation is paramount.


We need more psychonauts, not more banned substances.


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24 Mar 2011, 11:51 am

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We need more psychonauts, not more banned substances.


or at least the acceptance of the way psychonauts enrich their life.


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24 Mar 2011, 11:55 am

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I don't really see it as much different from kids who tried to sneak too much booze to drink. If you're consuming a substance that intoxicates, too much will always ruin your day and responsibility and moderation is paramount.


Is strange how people see some idiot getting sick from too much drugs, and think "X is mildly harmful to you, so I'll get the government to lock you up in a building for 10 years with rapist and murderers, and have you get raped in the showers, for your safety". Absolute f*****g logic.


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24 Mar 2011, 12:02 pm

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I don't really see it as much different from kids who tried to sneak too much booze to drink. If you're consuming a substance that intoxicates, too much will always ruin your day and responsibility and moderation is paramount.


Is strange how people see some idiot getting sick from too much drugs, and think "X is mildly harmful to you, so I'll get the government to lock you up in a building for 10 years with rapist and murderers, and have you get raped in the showers, for your safety". Absolute f***ing logic.


Even beyond the extreme of rape, there's also that you're introducing people who may not be criminal in any other way to gangs and criminal elements who won't exactly be a good influence on them once they do finally get out. You also end up embittering such individuals and pushing them farther from society.

Then there's the danger on the outside of having to deal with criminal elements that such people may not ever normally involve themselves with.


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24 Mar 2011, 12:10 pm

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I don't really see it as much different from kids who tried to sneak too much booze to drink. If you're consuming a substance that intoxicates, too much will always ruin your day and responsibility and moderation is paramount.


Is strange how people see some idiot getting sick from too much drugs, and think "X is mildly harmful to you, so I'll get the government to lock you up in a building for 10 years with rapist and murderers, and have you get raped in the showers, for your safety". Absolute f***ing logic.


Even beyond the extreme of rape, there's also that you're introducing people who may not be criminal in any other way to gangs and criminal elements who won't exactly be a good influence on them once they do finally get out. You also end up embittering such individuals and pushing them farther from society.

Then there's the danger on the outside of having to deal with criminal elements that such people may not ever normally involve themselves with.


which is why unless you are carrying enough to prove intent of distribution, most cops in denmark wont care about your cannabis.
unless you piss them off in some way or another of course, then they will even lie about the amounts you are carrying.

then the government closed our "open market"(whole street with vendors in small shops)
and pushed cannabis out into the hands of our biker gangs, prompting 3 years with the highest crime and murder rates in our capitol, ever.


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24 Mar 2011, 12:14 pm

skafather84 wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Some people also get high by choking themselves... 8O


That works at making orgasms stronger, too.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_erection


Usually it's done by autoerotic asphyxiation, which, though it can be done relatively safely, is how one British MP died (can't remember his name now), but that death erection thing is an interesting phenomenon too. When you die, isn't it true your bowels release as well? Not such a pleasant thing :P


Yep. Bowels are most definitely released postmortem.

But back to the subject: they fail to really go much farther into the description but from the sounds of it, the kids ingested too much, were overwhelmed by how high they were and one spazzed out while the others were just turning green. Sounds more like a problem of ignorance than a problem with the substance itself. If it's the same MJ synthetic that I've used, it's safe but you have to watch how much you consume or you'll definitely feel ill and tweaked out. I don't really see it as much different from kids who tried to sneak too much booze to drink. If you're consuming a substance that intoxicates, too much will always ruin your day and responsibility and moderation is paramount.


We need more psychonauts, not more banned substances.
I read the article again and there's some weaseling going on. They say Mary Joy is "touted" as incense, but it is synthetic marijuana. Uhh wtf if it's synthetic marijuana being advertised as incense, then why hasn't the company that made this product been legally held responsible yet? I bet it was incense. Dropping to the floor and shaking sounds like something that would happen on salvia.

@ryan93: Yeah it's absolutely bullshit. Just say no to drugs, and if you still don't get it then just say yes to buttrape.



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24 Mar 2011, 12:19 pm

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I read the article again and there's some weaseling going on. They say Mary Joy is "touted" as incense, but it is synthetic marijuana. Uhh wtf if it's synthetic marijuana being advertised as incense, then why hasn't the company that made this product been legally held responsible yet? I bet it was incense. Dropping to the floor and shaking sounds like something that would happen on salvia.


If it's like the companies here, they explicitly put on the product that it is not intended for consumption which then puts the responsibility solely on the person using it just like spray paint companies aren't held responsible for people who get high and die from inhaling the propellants they use. If you held that company responsible, you'd have to hold all companies responsible. Instead, they look to ban the synthetic substance itself...but the problem with that is that they can simply just create another synthetic molecule and use that instead. It's an absurd arms war of sorts with drugs at this point. Consider synthetic marijuana the generic version of MJ: structurally the same but manufactured differently.


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26 Apr 2011, 12:50 pm

the op of this post sounds like someone i would not want to be around ya know the ignorance and illogical "logic" lol "rather be dead than get high" lolol


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24 May 2011, 1:02 pm

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the op of this post sounds like someone i would not want to be around ya know the ignorance and illogical "logic" lol "rather be dead than get high" lolol


I completely agree. There's no compromise there. Either you do "drugs" (no dividing lines between any of them) or you don't. There are no shades of grey in the picture he paints; only black and white.
I experimented with drugs for a few years before I knew I had AS in an attempt to cope and hopefully figure myself or life out, even if by a little. It was a double-edged sword and for every new certainty I came to understand, the walls of my composure weakened and I was losing it. Eventually I became an alcoholic, and that was actually my lowest. What I'm trying to get around to saying is that marijuana doesn't even have a place at the table when you're talking about alcohol, opium, MDMA, cocaine and prescription drugs. Marijuana may have the potential to raise your anxious tendencies and other minor side effects, but I guarantee you a long night of smoking weed does not in any way stack up to a night abusing other substances. Marijuana has never broken up a family and marijuana has never killed a man.



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24 May 2011, 3:10 pm

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Cigarettes and alcohol are a lot worse than cannabis. Look up the death figures.


Ciggerettes don't do any of this:
Trouble remembering things
Slowed reaction time
Difficulty concentrating
Sleepiness
Anxiety
Paranoia (feeling that people are "out to get you")
Altered time perception
Red, bloodshot eyes
http://familydoctor.org/online/famdocen ... s/485.html

Thanks for playing.


You do realise that anxiety and paranoia are not typical side effects of marijuana, some people react badly to marijuana and get those effects. But as a rule marijuana more comanly causes euphoria and relaxation. Also the other things you mentioned only really last during the high, once the high is gone those effects are gone.



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babybuggy32 wrote:
the op of this post sounds like someone i would not want to be around ya know the ignorance and illogical "logic" lol "rather be dead than get high" lolol


I completely agree. There's no compromise there. Either you do "drugs" (no dividing lines between any of them) or you don't. There are no shades of grey in the picture he paints; only black and white.
I experimented with drugs for a few years before I knew I had AS in an attempt to cope and hopefully figure myself or life out, even if by a little. It was a double-edged sword and for every new certainty I came to understand, the walls of my composure weakened and I was losing it. Eventually I became an alcoholic, and that was actually my lowest. What I'm trying to get around to saying is that marijuana doesn't even have a place at the table when you're talking about alcohol, opium, MDMA, cocaine and prescription drugs. Marijuana may have the potential to raise your anxious tendencies and other minor side effects, but I guarantee you a long night of smoking weed does not in any way stack up to a night abusing other substances. Marijuana has never broken up a family and marijuana has never killed a man.


Drugs and dopamine topic

Substances like pot are ingested because of the resulting dopamine release. Human brains seem to crave this. I have found there are other ways to achieve this without using drugs, legal or not, and this is cheaper and healthier. but what ever turns your crank, whether it be sex, religion, dope, oxygen, or lack of it. Enjoy. :salut:

Nice to see you back, Ska. :)


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24 May 2011, 3:47 pm

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babybuggy32 wrote:
the op of this post sounds like someone i would not want to be around ya know the ignorance and illogical "logic" lol "rather be dead than get high" lolol


I completely agree. There's no compromise there. Either you do "drugs" (no dividing lines between any of them) or you don't. There are no shades of grey in the picture he paints; only black and white.
I experimented with drugs for a few years before I knew I had AS in an attempt to cope and hopefully figure myself or life out, even if by a little. It was a double-edged sword and for every new certainty I came to understand, the walls of my composure weakened and I was losing it. Eventually I became an alcoholic, and that was actually my lowest. What I'm trying to get around to saying is that marijuana doesn't even have a place at the table when you're talking about alcohol, opium, MDMA, cocaine and prescription drugs. Marijuana may have the potential to raise your anxious tendencies and other minor side effects, but I guarantee you a long night of smoking weed does not in any way stack up to a night abusing other substances. Marijuana has never broken up a family and marijuana has never killed a man.


Drugs and dopamine topic

Substances like pot are ingested because of the resulting dopamine release. Human brains seem to crave this. I have found there are other ways to achieve this without using drugs, legal or not, and this is cheaper and healthier. but what ever turns your crank, whether it be sex, religion, dope, oxygen, or lack of it. Enjoy. :salut:

Nice to see you back, Ska. :)


Ska? Where?! :o


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