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CaptainTrips222
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22 Apr 2011, 12:17 am

How else would we know it's there?



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22 Apr 2011, 2:28 am

It sounds like you are more interested in finding a magic genie than having a relationship with God. Sometimes God answers prayers pretty fast, sometimes He denies them, and He often answers them on his own timeline, and that can take a very long time but you will get it when you need it most.

Is there something specific you are thinking of that He hasn't answered?


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22 Apr 2011, 3:10 am

John_Browning wrote:
It sounds like you are more interested in finding a magic genie than having a relationship with God.


There's a difference?


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22 Apr 2011, 3:23 am

John_Browning wrote:
It sounds like you are more interested in finding a magic genie than having a relationship with God. Sometimes God answers prayers pretty fast, sometimes He denies them, and He often answers them on his own timeline, and that can take a very long time but you will get it when you need it most.

Is there something specific you are thinking of that He hasn't answered?


What I want or would pray for is irrelevant. If you have a relationship with a being like God, who you cannot feel, hear, touch, smell, or taste, then what does it profit you? If it's the reassurance you're immortal soul will be saved in the hereafter, you must wonder sometimes if it's there. If it's enough for you to believe without cause, then so be it, but if you need some kind of evidence and it doesn't answer prayers, how would you know? I'm not saying God never does answer, or that I've never received help from God (I believe I have) but it stand to reason God should make itself known.

A magic genie would be simply awesome though.



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22 Apr 2011, 3:53 am

I think a magic genie would be awesome too, but is there any limits as to how big of a mess someone could make of their lives or of the world because of how they used the genie's power? Could they make a wish that ends up selling themselves short in the future? Could they have had more than what they asked for if they had just waited?


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22 Apr 2011, 4:02 am

I asked for Strength and God gave me Difficulties to make me strong.
I asked for Wisdom and God gave me Problems to solve.
I asked for Prosperity and God gave me Brain and Brawn to work.
I asked for Courage and God gave me Danger to overcome.
I asked for Love and God gave me Troubled People to help.
I asked for Favor and God gave me Opportunities.
I got nothing I wanted.
But I received everything I needed.

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22 Apr 2011, 4:08 am

I looked for Strength and life gave me Difficulties to make me strong.
I looked for Wisdom and life gave me Problems to solve.
I looked for Prosperity and life gave me Brain and Brawn to work.
I looked for Courage and life gave me Danger to overcome.
I looked for Love and life gave me Troubled People to help.
I looked for Favor and life gave me Opportunities.
I got nothing I wanted.
But I received everything I needed.

Life can be equally good whether you have faith or not.



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22 Apr 2011, 4:09 am

John_Browning wrote:
I think a magic genie would be awesome too, but is there any limits as to how big of a mess someone could make of their lives or of the world because of how they used the genie's power? Could they make a wish that ends up selling themselves short in the future? Could they have had more than what they asked for if they had just waited?


Could they wish away their spinal cord injury so they could walk again? Could they wish for a brain that wasn't damaged from oxygen deprivation in utero? Could they use a wish to grow back an arm they lost or that loving God all mighty forgot to give them? Could they wish to go back in time so they could warn their sister not to go to the party she got raped and murdered? To cure the leukemia of a much loved child? A relationship with God helps you cope, but that's all. Some prayers have to go unanswered.

Yes, more often than I care to admit, I'd much rather have a magic genie than a relationship with God, as awful as it sounds. There I said it.



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22 Apr 2011, 4:10 am

John_Browning wrote:
I think a magic genie would be awesome too, but is there any limits as to how big of a mess someone could make of their lives or of the world because of how they used the genie's power? Could they make a wish that ends up selling themselves short in the future? Could they have had more than what they asked for if they had just waited?


Could they wish away their spinal cord injury so they could walk again? Could they wish for a brain that wasn't damaged from oxygen deprivation in utero? Could they use a wish to grow back an arm they lost or that loving God all mighty forgot to give them? Could they wish to go back in time so they could warn their sister not to go to the party she got raped and murdered? To cure the leukemia of a much loved child? A relationship with God helps you cope, but that's all. Some prayers have to go unanswered.

Yes, more often than I care to admit, I'd much rather have a magic genie than a relationship with God, as awful as it sounds. There I said it.



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22 Apr 2011, 4:23 am

John_Browning wrote:
I asked for Strength and God gave me Difficulties to make me strong.
I asked for Wisdom and God gave me Problems to solve.
I asked for Prosperity and God gave me Brain and Brawn to work.
I asked for Courage and God gave me Danger to overcome.
I asked for Love and God gave me Troubled People to help.
I asked for Favor and God gave me Opportunities.
I got nothing I wanted.
But I received everything I needed.

-Anonymous


Funny. All the things god "gave" anonymous I've had in my life, as an atheist.


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22 Apr 2011, 4:24 am

CaptainTrips222 wrote:

Yes, more often than I care to admit, I'd much rather have a magic genie than a relationship with God, as awful as it sounds. There I said it.


It's okay. A lot of Twilight fans like Edward more than Jacob.


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22 Apr 2011, 4:44 am

Bethie wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:

Yes, more often than I care to admit, I'd much rather have a magic genie than a relationship with God, as awful as it sounds. There I said it.


It's okay. A lot of Twilight fans like Edward more than Jacob.


Sorry to hurt the feelings of a Twilight loving atheist, but Twilight is Mormonism for vampires.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/faith/4982 ... e.html.csp



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22 Apr 2011, 4:53 am

cdfox7 wrote:
Bethie wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:

Yes, more often than I care to admit, I'd much rather have a magic genie than a relationship with God, as awful as it sounds. There I said it.


It's okay. A lot of Twilight fans like Edward more than Jacob.


Sorry to hurt the feelings of a Twilight loving atheist, but Twilight is Mormonism for vampires.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/faith/4982 ... e.html.csp


LOL! According to this article:
being straight-edge
doing household chores
a vampire being immortal (uh...that's new?)
Edward's sparkly skin
a teenager declaring she'll love her bf "forever"
a life-threatening vampire pregnancy, and Bella continuing it

are "Mormon" concepts. :lol:

That was hilarious. Thanks. :)


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22 Apr 2011, 5:55 am

some jejune thoughts-

*they don't call it "faith" for nothing
*one should be careful what one wishes for, as there may be later "buyers's remorse"
*no mere mortal has the real big picture, no matter what anybody thinks otherwise
*god answered my prayers, but only the ones important to god in the big picture, and only in god's own way, not necessarily in ways immediately apparent to me, sometimes not until decades after the fact, and i may indeed know the whole story only after i matriculate into the bright world above.



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22 Apr 2011, 5:58 am

IDontGetIt wrote:
I looked for Strength and life gave me Difficulties to make me strong.
I looked for Wisdom and life gave me Problems to solve.
I looked for Prosperity and life gave me Brain and Brawn to work.
I looked for Courage and life gave me Danger to overcome.
I looked for Love and life gave me Troubled People to help.
I looked for Favor and life gave me Opportunities.
I got nothing I wanted.
But I received everything I needed.

Life can be equally good whether you have faith or not.


You would have all of these things even if you had not asked for anything. So what makes you think these are answers to prayers?

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