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28 Jun 2011, 10:28 am

I have been thinking about if novels are worth to read for a long time.

I like some history-based novel, or some very deep ones.

I also like some classics, classical romances...

For too popular novels, I prefer not to read them..

For recent days, I was reading The Kite Runner and A Thousand Splendid suns. I like them. I think they maybe the best from recent years( I have not read too many new novels, I used to not read them.)

How about contemporary novels?

Do you think novels are worth to read? And, if so, would you like to list some novels you like, please?

I am so curious! :heart:

P.S. Let's also discuss them please. I am waiting for your list, then I will write my own list. See how many of us have similar views...



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28 Jun 2011, 11:17 am

Some yes, some no.

The lists vary depending on who you are, as so much else.

Having been forced through Ulysses, I would need very powerful incentives to turn another page of James Joyce.

Certain others [PBS, I keep mum] have been in various ways very important to me.

Unsually, if the Lit Professor is not forcing me, I know within a few pages whether this work, that author is of value / interest to me.

Indiscriminate reading, unless you are deliberately expploring to determine your limits, can be painful.



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28 Jun 2011, 11:22 am

metaphysics wrote:
I have been thinking about if novels are worth to read for a long time.

I like some history-based novel, or some very deep ones.

I also like some classics, classical romances...

For too popular novels, I prefer not to read them..

For recent days, I was reading The Kite Runner and A Thousand Splendid suns. I like them. I think they maybe the best from recent years( I have not read too many new novels, I used to not read them.)

How about contemporary novels?

Do you think novels are worth to read? And, if so, would you like to list some novels you like, please?

I am so curious! :heart:

P.S. Let's also discuss them please. I am waiting for your list, then I will write my own list. See how many of us have similar views...


have you read midnights children?


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28 Jun 2011, 11:23 am

Philologos wrote:
Some yes, some no.

The lists vary depending on who you are, as so much else.

Having been forced through Ulysses, I would need very powerful incentives to turn another page of James Joyce.

Certain others [PBS, I keep mum] have been in various ways very important to me.

Unsually, if the Lit Professor is not forcing me, I know within a few pages whether this work, that author is of value / interest to me.

Indiscriminate reading, unless you are deliberately expploring to determine your limits, can be painful.


I started reading Ulysses this morning :(

Focible reading is painful. As awful as Forcible-feeding. (Suffagettes :wink: I am not a feminist). And indiscriminate reading is the thing I would never do.

If I am forced by one to read my favourite novel, I would never read it again.



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28 Jun 2011, 11:27 am

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metaphysics wrote:
I have been thinking about if novels are worth to read for a long time.

I like some history-based novel, or some very deep ones.

I also like some classics, classical romances...

For too popular novels, I prefer not to read them..

For recent days, I was reading The Kite Runner and A Thousand Splendid suns. I like them. I think they maybe the best from recent years( I have not read too many new novels, I used to not read them.)

How about contemporary novels?

Do you think novels are worth to read? And, if so, would you like to list some novels you like, please?

I am so curious! :heart:

P.S. Let's also discuss them please. I am waiting for your list, then I will write my own list. See how many of us have similar views...


have you read midnights children?


:cry: I haven't...Please not feel contemptuous to me. It is the next novel that I am going to read. I will read it immidiately when I finished Ulysses. I already want to read it since you mentioned it...

I have read its Introduction before..

However, I have read The Satanic Verse and Shame.



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28 Jun 2011, 11:28 am

"If I am forced by one to read my favourite novel, I would never read it again."

Right - how often have I said / thought the same?

The literature courses is the American school system [I will speak to no other] have much to answer for. Fortunately for me, most of the authors they approve enough to teach [from 1900 on] are people whose work would not speak to me in any case.

Besides novels, are you into poetry? Your preferred poetry can tell a lot about you.



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28 Jun 2011, 11:31 am

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metaphysics wrote:
I have been thinking about if novels are worth to read for a long time.

I like some history-based novel, or some very deep ones.

I also like some classics, classical romances...

For too popular novels, I prefer not to read them..

For recent days, I was reading The Kite Runner and A Thousand Splendid suns. I like them. I think they maybe the best from recent years( I have not read too many new novels, I used to not read them.)

How about contemporary novels?

Do you think novels are worth to read? And, if so, would you like to list some novels you like, please?

I am so curious! :heart:

P.S. Let's also discuss them please. I am waiting for your list, then I will write my own list. See how many of us have similar views...


have you read midnights children?


:cry: I haven't...Please not feel contemptuous to me. It is the next novel that I am going to read. I will read it immidiately when I finished Ulysses. I already want to read it since you mentioned it...

I have read its Introduction before..

However, I have read The Satanic Verse and Shame.


Shame I love
I used to say that Satanic Verses was his weakest novel (but then he wrote earth beneath her feet)


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28 Jun 2011, 12:13 pm

Philologos wrote:
"If I am forced by one to read my favourite novel, I would never read it again."

Right - how often have I said / thought the same?

The literature courses is the American school system [I will speak to no other] have much to answer for. Fortunately for me, most of the authors they approve enough to teach [from 1900 on] are people whose work would not speak to me in any case.

Besides novels, are you into poetry? Your preferred poetry can tell a lot about you.


I have never like syllbus. Syllbus of the world are always simlilarly awful. It changed all the beautiful things, suffocated the spirit...

Poetry.. I tend to read Oriental poetry.

For Occidental poetry.. Homer. Sappho. Some Latin Poets....How about poets after them? I am curious about your ideas. I like some of them but not sure.



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28 Jun 2011, 12:14 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
metaphysics wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
metaphysics wrote:
I have been thinking about if novels are worth to read for a long time.

I like some history-based novel, or some very deep ones.

I also like some classics, classical romances...

For too popular novels, I prefer not to read them..

For recent days, I was reading The Kite Runner and A Thousand Splendid suns. I like them. I think they maybe the best from recent years( I have not read too many new novels, I used to not read them.)

How about contemporary novels?

Do you think novels are worth to read? And, if so, would you like to list some novels you like, please?

I am so curious! :heart:

P.S. Let's also discuss them please. I am waiting for your list, then I will write my own list. See how many of us have similar views...


have you read midnights children?


:cry: I haven't...Please not feel contemptuous to me. It is the next novel that I am going to read. I will read it immidiately when I finished Ulysses. I already want to read it since you mentioned it...

I have read its Introduction before..

However, I have read The Satanic Verse and Shame.


Shame I love
I used to say that Satanic Verses was his weakest novel (but then he wrote earth beneath her feet)


So curious about what novel do you like...(several examples??)



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28 Jun 2011, 12:57 pm

Some novels are worth reading, others not.

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28 Jun 2011, 1:01 pm

Sir...

Would you please to give me some examples?



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28 Jun 2011, 1:07 pm

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Sir...

Would you please to give me some examples?


I hesitate to do so. A novel you would like or dislike is predicated on a highly subjective basis. Since I do not know you personally, I would hesitate to recommend ( dis-recommend) any particular novel.

What is your taste. History based novels? Science Fiction? Utopian? Dystopian? Romance? Reality-noir? Novels about war? About adventure? Novels emphasizing action or stream of consciousness?

I dislike novels that appeal to sentimentality. I like novels about hard-headed, hard-hearted people who are more just than kind. Touch feely turns me off.

Novels about the spirit turn me off. The minute I hear people speak of or write of spirituality I reach for my phasor and it is not set to stun.

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28 Jun 2011, 1:13 pm

Ha, if I was asked to read novels I would gladly doing it all day long... Its second hand experience if not first..

Hey did you read Shantharam by Gregory David Roberts?



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28 Jun 2011, 1:19 pm

ruveyn wrote:
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Sir...

Would you please to give me some examples?


I hesitate to do so. A novel you would like or dislike is predicated on a highly subjective basis. Since I do not know you personally, I would hesitate to recommend ( dis-recommend) any particular novel.

What is your taste. History based novels? Science Fiction? Utopian? Dystopian? Romance? Reality-noir? Novels about war? About adventure? Novels emphasizing action or stream of consciousness?

I dislike novels that appeal to sentimentality. I like novels about hard-headed, hard-hearted people who are more just than kind. Touch feely turns me off.

Novels about the spirit turn me off. The minute I hear people speak of or write of spirituality I reach for my phasor and it is not set to stun.

ruveyn



Thank you, sir. I will hesitate also if anybody ask me so.

Probably history-based romance? Utopian?

They should be hard to understand to common people. I detest shallow, vulgar, trifling things( A perfect example of these, Jane Austen).



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28 Jun 2011, 2:12 pm

metaphysics -

my guess is that your mind's poetry would differ seriously from mine.

Of the Classics I enjoy the epics - Homer, Virgil - and Martial's Epigrams.

Some medieval European song lyrics are quite good.

Of later stuff, there is not much, and that not well known. If you read German, I enjoyed some of Tucholsky's stuff:- as Das Mitglied [http://www.zeno.org/Literatur/M/Tucholsky,+Kurt/Werke/1926/Das+Mitglied].

You likely, if you are not into Jane Austen, do not match Herself's poetic choices. But some T S Eliot both she and I can appreciate. Do you know Rumi? More Herself than me.