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02 Sep 2011, 11:14 am

Chevand wrote:
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i can not understand how a boy can be named "sue". "sue" is a girls name.
whatever


That's the whole point of the song. His father named him Sue before leaving his mother and him. Throughout his childhood and into his adulthood he suffers one indignity after another because of his feminine name, for which he compensates by developing a very tough and aggressive personality. Because of his horrible experience, he vows to seek out and kill his father for giving him a girl's name. Eventually he does find his father, and after an intense brawl, his father explains that he knew he'd be absent from his son's life, and that the reason he gave his son that name was to deliberately force him to grow up tough. Father and son then reconcile.

And then, the punchline of the song is, Sue explains that, if he ever has a son, he plans to name him "any damn thing but Sue" because, despite what his father told him, he "still hate[s] that name".


ok then.



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02 Sep 2011, 12:02 pm

Between order and entropy what is, at least in my mind, a truism is that anything that ever will happen is exactly what was going to happen as dominoed from the big-bang itself. Hence, nothing that ever has or will happen comes of our choices when none of our thought process are necessarily our own - we're in a sense all, each and every one of us, passthrough entities.

That said, there is something that can also be said about sentient animals such as ourselves. We do crave efficiency and order, more than we crave chaos, and that said we will continue to have more order and less chaos if left to our own devices. Why? We constantly seek lower energy levels, hence greater efficiency of motion. Its something you can find in thermodynamic reaction, in chemical reaction, and just as readily its found as a governing reality in human behavior. Yes, we do have erratic people but, when you examine what makes them tick, the problem is most often that - by their own wiring - the current order can't accommodate them, or they've been in a traumatic sequence of events which shifted their brain chemistry considerably where they have to do wild and seemingly absurd things at times to keep or possibly reestablish internal equilibrium. Seeking internal equilibrium is a quest for order in and of itself even if it doesn't create order as an external reality.



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02 Sep 2011, 6:27 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Between order and entropy what is, at least in my mind, a truism is that anything that ever will happen is exactly what was going to happen as dominoed from the big-bang itself. Hence, nothing that ever has or will happen comes of our choices when none of our thought process are necessarily our own - we're in a sense all, each and every one of us, passthrough entities.

That said, there is something that can also be said about sentient animals such as ourselves. We do crave efficiency and order, more than we crave chaos, and that said we will continue to have more order and less chaos if left to our own devices. Why? We constantly seek lower energy levels, hence greater efficiency of motion. Its something you can find in thermodynamic reaction, in chemical reaction, and just as readily its found as a governing reality in human behavior. Yes, we do have erratic people but, when you examine what makes them tick, the problem is most often that - by their own wiring - the current order can't accommodate them, or they've been in a traumatic sequence of events which shifted their brain chemistry considerably where they have to do wild and seemingly absurd things at times to keep or possibly reestablish internal equilibrium. Seeking internal equilibrium is a quest for order in and of itself even if it doesn't create order as an external reality.


War is quite chaotic. If we were but thermodynamic processes, there wouldn't occur breaks in natural symmetry.

What I'm saying is, how you choose to resonate determines your energy usage. You can make the conscious decision at any given point to stop and smell the roses, or mow them down. Nature cannot break it's own natural symmetry.