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Inuyasha
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21 Oct 2011, 1:14 am

blauSamstag wrote:
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Another blue collar American job evaporating before our eyes


You do know that there is a shortage of truckers in the USA right now, right?

Too many truckers retiring, and the new breed are too candy-ass to keep at it.


Tell that to people whose unemployment has run out.


Agreed, and truckers often have to pay for their own diesel fuel.


What does that have to do with anything?

It's a free market, right? They can negotiate their contracts, can't they?


Look at the monetary exchange rate sometime, the peso isn't exactly a high value currency.


Still trying to figure out what that has to do with the shortage of long-haul drivers in the USA.


Cause the Mexican drivers at the end of the day are supposed to head back to Mexico, well considering how much more the dollar is worth compared to their currency, they will have a much better standard of living despite getting less money than the US trucker.


Still not following you.

You're saying diesel is cheaper if you are a mexican?


Nope, I'm saying when they get back to Mexico the amount of money they have left after the expenses (while poverty level in the US) would actually be middle class in Mexico because the US dollar is worth so much more.



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21 Oct 2011, 4:58 am

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You are forgetting that those truckers are brown and that they talk funny.


And they will be hauling in illegal drugs from South of the Border.

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I don't care if any of this is sarcastic, this is racism that would only come from the mouths of maniacs.



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21 Oct 2011, 4:59 am

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The right wing believes that truckers must compete with cheaper Mexican labor.


That happens to be true. American truckers will not lower their wages voluntarily.

Most truckers are members of the criminal Teamsters Union.

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Want to prove this?


You are right. About one third of the truck drivers are Teamster Union members. There are about 3.5 million truck drivers in the U.S. and 2/3 of them are not union, but independent truckers.

In any case they will not voluntarily settle for lower wages. They will do everything they can within the law (and perhaps outside the law) to keep Mexican truckers out of the U.S.

It is simple: Cheap labor vs expensive labor. Nothing new.

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No. Tell me why the Teamsters are criminals.



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21 Oct 2011, 7:38 am

Gedrene wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Gedrene wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
androbot2084 wrote:
The right wing believes that truckers must compete with cheaper Mexican labor.


That happens to be true. American truckers will not lower their wages voluntarily.

Most truckers are members of the criminal Teamsters Union.

ruveyn


Want to prove this?


You are right. About one third of the truck drivers are Teamster Union members. There are about 3.5 million truck drivers in the U.S. and 2/3 of them are not union, but independent truckers.

In any case they will not voluntarily settle for lower wages. They will do everything they can within the law (and perhaps outside the law) to keep Mexican truckers out of the U.S.

It is simple: Cheap labor vs expensive labor. Nothing new.

ruveyn

No. Tell me why the Teamsters are criminals.



Jimmy Hoffa and Jimmy Hoffa Jr. and Dave Beck. All criminals. How many labor unions work in such a way that the president of the Union doesn't retire. Rather he is buried in concrete.

The Teamsers and the Mafia go back a long way together.

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21 Oct 2011, 9:15 am

Inuyasha wrote:

Nope, I'm saying when they get back to Mexico the amount of money they have left after the expenses (while poverty level in the US) would actually be middle class in Mexico because the US dollar is worth so much more.


You seem to be making an assumption about how well their employers will pay them.

But ok, whatever.



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21 Oct 2011, 11:44 am

Inuyasha wrote:
Nope, I'm saying when they get back to Mexico the amount of money they have left after the expenses (while poverty level in the US) would actually be middle class in Mexico because the US dollar is worth so much more.


That's entirely irrelevant. The proper measure is not relative currency value, but rather the standard of living on a PPP basis.

So, where do you stand on this, Inuyasha? If you are consistent with your avowed political stripe, then you should be at the front rank of the cheerleaders.


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21 Oct 2011, 11:50 am

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That is a good reason either for your state to go with No Fault Auto Insurance (like Michigan), or for you to get some Uninsured Motorist protection.


All states have uninsured motorist protection on policies. The problem is that states with "no fault" rules have insane costs for coverage as YOUR policy pays regardless of fault and that means no matter how good a driver you are, you still get treated as if you are a bad driver. I grew up in Florida which had/has "no fault" insurance laws. Auto insurance was insane.

visagrunt wrote:
But even if these assertions are true, then why did you agree to this element of the definition, in the first place? As the negotiating party who was holding all of the chips, one can be reasonably certain that there is no provision of NAFTA that was forced upon the United States.


Do some research into the history behind NAFTA. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DID NOT WANT IT. The elites in government did. They negotiated the terms and I can assure you that the impact on the average citizen was NOT a primary concern.