Dec 1st, recruiting people for the war on Christmas.

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If you want to, you celebrate christmas, and if you dont want to, then you dont.

Is that an american thing to b***h around about personal stuff like that? O_o

Someone should prob point out that in Greek, X=Chi

Xmas isn't taking the Christ out of Christmas.

"Chi" is the first letter of the 16th-century Greek alphabet, rooted in the term Xristos, which was how they spelled Christ's name in ancient texts.

There are powerful propaganda machines in America designed to anger and scare people to keep ratings and ad sales high. The whole War on Christmas thing is a product of that. Controversy means profit in the media, and controversy is easy enough to create.

A Christian getting told "Happy Holidays" is not the equivalent to a non-Christian (read: Jewish, Muslim) getting told "Merry Christmas". A better equivalent would be a Muslim telling you to enjoy Ramadan, or something like that.



Exactly. If you can't tell for sure what religion someone else, better take a neutral option.

Not everyone, but there are certainly many of them. The level of backslash Christians attempt to generate against companies saying "Happy Holidays" is proof.


And not succeeding. Like you said, why do they have to assume you are Christian?


You mean "non-poor Christian children living in the Northern hemisphere".

Our muslim coworkers actually bring tablets with selfmade baked sweeties at the end of their Ramadan, when they do have their great "Ramadan-fasting is over, lets eat tons of food." celebration. Exactly what about them sharing their celebration with us, by offering us sweeties, as it is customs to offer your friends sweeties during that celebration, should offend me? O_o It simply means, that they see us as friends, and because of it being custom to gift your friend with sweeties, they do so.

Until now they did as well not have the idea to get offended by other coworkers bringing Christmas cookies and offering them for free in the company, or "before Easter" - "Krapfen" (= a kind of donut with marmelade)

Someone else not sharing your believe, does not change you having that believe. And because of that not being a cause for anyone being offended, its pretty normal to greet the way you do. Someone telling you marry christmas, is someone in his opinion wishing you to enjoy some nice days. That you get offended by people wishing you to enjoy some nice days, is really something that you should write on your head, because its pretty bizarre. That our muslim coworkers wont actually celebrate christmas during the christmas holidays, is totally aware for us. But saying goodbye before the holidays with "Have a nice christmas!" means actually nothing more: I hope you and your family will enjoy the free days to come and have a good time together. That they wont be sharing themselve around a tree I know. But still they will have some free days, that they can spend as family together, and which is for most people a good thing, anyway if you add some tree and christmas story to it or not.

Actually I think you are paranoid. Around here 50% of people are actually atheistic and 49% are moderate christian, and still greeting each other with "Grüß Gott" (=Greet to god) is common, simply because its the way you greet here since centuries. Its simply a habbit, just like greeting people with "Merry christmas" at christmas is a habbit, and does not involve any kind of believe in magic. If I wish you a "May the fourth be with you!" at 4th May it does as well not involve, that I want to convert you to believe into the Star Wars mysticism.

They dont. You are adding that whyever into it without any cause. Things you do without cause, are not other people faults. Thats if you ram yourself a screw in your knee, when passing me on the street and then telling me, that it was my fault, because I should have known, that you feel the need to ram yourself a screw into your knee, when I pass you on the street. People really cant know, what kind of weird ticks and paranoias you have. Thinking that someone wishing you to spend some nice free days with your family, would automatically assume you are a christian, is a weird tick.

You are free to imaginate all kind of stuff into your muslim coworker presenting you with homemade sweeties from his wife at end of ramadan, but dont blame others for your imagination, thats still in your responsibility. Actually absolutely nothing forces you to think more of it then "Mh....sweeties...!"

Yes, whats so horrible about local festivities? Every area and country have local festivities. Should Hindus be denied their festivities, only because of them only being celebrated by Hindus? O_o

With the prospects of marijuana becoming increasingly legal in the US, law enforcement is now diverting resources from The War on Drugs to The War on Christmas.

The first major bust was the Black Friday arrest of Santa himself on 5,954,993,872 counts of money laundering... According to the charges filed, the scheme was apparently created in the following way:

1. A Mafia front company designing large diameter chimneys would channel illicit funds through Santa, who would buy expensive gifts and give them to adults and children.
2. Adults and children would then return the gifts at the store for a cash refund.
3. ????????
4. PROFIT!



In an entirely unrelated incident, the TSA confiscated all of Santa's presents at the airport... and submitted all of his Elves to full cavity searches.

In another entirely unrelated incident, Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer was arrested for DUI - again.

Both Santa and Rudolph will be represented in court by Mrs. T. Fairy, who previously made a name for herself successfully defending the Easter Bunny from charges of sexually solicitation of a child (The infamous "Never Take Easter Eggs From a Stranger" case).

Santa has entered a plea of "Not Guilty", and Mrs. T. Fairy reputedly told reporters that the charges were fabricated as part of a "Randian Anti-Charity Plot".

Non-poor atheist, deist and agnostic children as well. Even most children in poverty celebrate christmas.

Right, Christmas is so great for poor children.

200 years of Christmas celebrations have certainly fixed poverty. Hah!

That's not my point. The fact that 2% of the population can't afford christmas presents for their kids, is no reason to abolish christmas, though. As we all know, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few.

Christmas doesn't bother me even though I don't celebrate it. I'm Jewish. Oy to the voild.

I think it is silly to get your knickers in a knot over what is basically a pleasantry. Being told "Happy holidays" by some store clerk you're never going to know personally is better than being told, "Okay, you spent your money, now get the f**k out," isn't it?

Mamselle: For context, the "War on Christmas" was invented by Christians with too much privilege in their hands and too much of a desire to feel persecuted. They are the ones who flip their s**t when a establishment tells them "Happy Holidays". They truly want to believe it is as an attempt to remove the Christ from Christmas, just like they removed the Saturn out of Saturnalia.

To be fair, they are quite sure of how easy it is to appropriate other people's culture. So maybe that's why they are so afraid of them being next.

http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/11/27/war-christmas

I don't really see why anyone cares either way.

Maybe it is because America is much more Christian than the UK. Quick stats: USA 73% Christian, 6% "other", 20% "none"; England 59% Christian, 9% "other", 32% "none/not stated" (if you factor in the rest of Britain then the religion falls for irreligion, and if you factor in Northern Ireland Christianity rises at the expense of other religions). I know that my "other religion" friends almost universally celebrate Christmas, and we'll wish each other a happy Eid/Diwali even if we don't celebrate it.

I hate to sound like one of the "PC gone mad" group, but it really does seem like both sides are being silly. Christmas is nearly universally celebrated, so assuming that someone celebrates it is fair- there's no need to say "Happy Holidays". Equally, saying "Happy Holidays" does no harm.