Dec 1st, recruiting people for the war on Christmas.

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06 Dec 2011, 5:08 pm

Maybe a flash mob of atheists would get your cause going. Maybe something like "Occupy Christmas", see how many people can squeeze into the photo with Santa area at the mall....

I hope you're not too lonely...with your big War on Christmas there. I have this coupon for a free Big Mac if you want it, something for the troops.



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07 Dec 2011, 12:35 pm

I'm more of an agnostic these days than an atheist, but even when I was an atheist I still celebrated Christmas. Presents, pretty lights, parties and good food? Yes, please.



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07 Dec 2011, 12:40 pm

kobi_galon wrote:
Well, Christmas is actually a Pagan-origined holiday. If I'm not mistaking, wiccans and other neopagans already do something similar, by calling it differently. :D


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I'm an atheist but I still celebrate Christmas because it's a nice opportunity to be happy about something for once.



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07 Dec 2011, 12:42 pm

Hooray for longer days!

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07 Dec 2011, 1:35 pm

A blow to the Atheist offensive!

Atheists at Church

Or is it just another experiment by those godless messiahs of Atheism? It's not like it's someone else's children, only the most godless would do that to their own!



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07 Dec 2011, 8:38 pm

I don't see the relationship between that and the war on christmas, at all.

Atheists going to church, I heard that one before, I'd bet that your enthusiasm about your link is likely because it misrepresents facts. Here's a more awesome-er link:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... to-church/


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07 Dec 2011, 10:33 pm

Vexcalibur wrote:
I don't see the relationship between that and the war on christmas, at all.

Atheists going to church, I heard that one before, I'd bet that your enthusiasm about your link is likely because it misrepresents facts. Here's a more awesome-er link:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... to-church/


Had to reword that. Guess I did get a little excited.

Don't see how that blog was any different than my article. The blogger was surprised though

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17%… that’s about 16% higher than I initially predicted it would be…


17% is a lot, considering how many religious people actually go to church. I wouldn't have thought it was that high either.



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08 Dec 2011, 12:14 am

Of course the thread author is a Jew.



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08 Dec 2011, 9:05 am

I think an overview of the history, culture, and beliefs of the major world religions should be included in public school curriculums.
I know a Catholic guy who thought Protestants didn't believe in Jesus until he was in his twenties. :lol:



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08 Dec 2011, 12:55 pm

The artistic ancestor of Wierd Al Yankovic was Spike Jones, and his band the "City Slickers" who did irreverent send ups of both classical music and of the then latest syrupy pop hits of the the fourties and early fifties.

But when rocknroll began to hit the charts in the late fifties he didnt touch it.

When asked why he replied "how can I demolish something thats already rubble to begin with?"

Waging " a war on christmas" is trying to demolish something that has already been in ruins for a long time.

There are 12 days Christmas.

December 25th is day minus one. Its not even one of the 12 days of christmas.

The evening of the 25th is the first "night of christmas".

The 26th is the actual first day of chistmas.

The birthday is supposed to be secondary in importance to the seperate moment when his divinity became manifest- the Epiphany.

Thus the last of the 12 days of christmas January 6th is supposed ot be the climax of the season when we are supposed to observe "the Feast of Epiphany"( they actually do it that way in Scandanavia and in Eastern Orthodox countries).

And Christmas is supposed to be second fiddle to Easter anyway.

And easter has all those bunny rabbits that have nothing to do with christianity- a seperate topic).

So Christmas has usurped Easter- and we americans cant even get the christmas season calender right.

Then you have American Jews afraid of assimilation lamenting that they have to "hype up a minor Jewish holiday to compete with a major christian holiday"- irony being that American style Chistmas is itsself a distorted version of the Christian festival. You might say that for a jew to put up a christmas tree means that he is not succumbing to Christianity- but like his christian neighbors- he is succumbing to Paganism. And indeed there is a splinter group of Christian Fundies who are attacking Christmas for that very reason-not to attack christianity but to defend christainity from the "Pagan holiday of Christmas".

And you have Vex attacking, and the Fox's Bill O"Reilly defending a "christmas" that already doesnt resemble christmas.

Attackers attacking, defenders defending, and people resisting seduction into, a holiday that doesnt even exist in its intended form. Irony heaped upon irony.

There seems to be a human need for a gift-giving festival of lights in the mid winter. So call it what you want and just have a good time.



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08 Dec 2011, 3:01 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
kobi_galon wrote:
Well, Christmas is actually a Pagan-origined holiday. If I'm not mistaking, wiccans and other neopagans already do something similar, by calling it differently. :D


Indeed.

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I'm an atheist but I still celebrate Christmas because it's a nice opportunity to be happy about something for once.


Yahhh!



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09 Dec 2011, 7:57 pm

The war is heating up! The 17% will not stand for it much longer!

Pennsylvania Town Fights Back

I say, if Atheists get together and consider Atheism a religion, then they should be able to hang up their banners next to other holiday getup.

Otherwise :cry:



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10 Dec 2011, 4:34 am

It looks like Jehovah's Witnesses are launching their own War on Christmas due to it's undeniably historically pagan elements. As we all know, religion adds legitimacy to any cause whatsoever, so this should be fun! :)


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10 Dec 2011, 7:35 am

Telekon wrote:
Of course the thread author is a Jew.
Of course you are not really reading threads before posting.

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Attackers attacking, defenders defending, and people resisting seduction into, a holiday that doesnt even exist in its intended form. Irony heaped upon irony.
I am not attacking Christmas in any way. I am just going with the flow. It was the Christians' that saying Happy Holidays would remove Jesus out of the holidays, and I think it is a perfect idea.

By any chance, celebrate that thing we now call christmas. Eat some big food. Join the massive orgy of over-commercialization and buy tons and tons of gifts (it is good for the economy). Decorate your house with pines and shiny objects, it is fun. but my way to give season's greetings will be "Happy Holidays" from now on. I just figured it, Christmas is much funnier without the religious part.


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10 Dec 2011, 9:49 am

And please, please update the pagan beliefs to include more stuff like this:

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