Is the acceptance of profanity into our language good?
ahhhhh ok. i was just curious what you were getting at. if alex coded an exception in the Adult forum, so that swears were no longer filtered at all, we would allow them on pictures too. it is probably counterproductive for you to point out how non-explicit fetish discussion is overlooked, because if members (or alex) start to notice and complain, we would need to crack down and be less permissive.
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Heres the thing rules are ultimately left to be interpreted by mods and while we think that a small amount of fetish discussion can be benefitial for the site since it allows a certain discussion that is interesting to some members none of us can see a benefit from allowing swearing.
Could you please point me out an example where swearing would be benefitial for this site beyond pictures that can be found almost on every other forum if a member was interested on looking them up?
I´m more than willing to reconsider my position if you do so and Im sure the other mods are as well but so far profanity seems to be used to attack other members and to post pictures that we find tasteless and are against the rules(and I dont think our personal opinion on them is going to change anytime soon) so we are trying to remind members that the rules are against that.
This rules where that way when you signed up and you agreed to them(wether you read them or not doesnt matter because you claimed you read them in order to sign up) so I dont see why you have a problem with mods enforcing the rules you agreed to.
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Swearing can be beneficial as a release, for if a member wants to vent, for example, and to add emphasis and powerful emotion to a post. While I obviously understand that you'd be against this language being used against other members, I think it would be nice if it was allowed in other contexts within the adult section.
on the OP's question, i think that swears are an important part of communication. they do make a person appear crass and unprofessional, but at the same time they are humorous multipurpose terms. as some swears become common, new ones spring up, or other verboten underground terms. it's all good.
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Swearing as means of release is allowed at the haven for example. However I dont see how a picture with a swear word/a personal attack... which is what most members are doing would qualify as such.
To add a powerful emotion to a post not.
As for the adult thing you have to understand that not everyone in wp is in the same way and people that are shocked by the use of swearing in other contexts shouldnt have to avoid the adult section.
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Is anyone actually shocked by swearing? I agree with Stephen Fry's view on that matter: "I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous..."
What's that mean?
Swearing as means of release is allowed at the haven for example. However I dont see how a picture with a swear word/a personal attack... which is what most members are doing would qualify as such.
To add a powerful emotion to a post not.
As for the adult thing you have to understand that not everyone in wp is in the same way and people that are shocked by the use of swearing in other contexts shouldnt have to avoid the adult section.
Look at it this way: if you can see no benefit to swearing where is the benefit in censorship? Where do you draw the line? Do we have a right not to be offended on this website?
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Is anyone actually shocked by swearing? I agree with Stephen Fry's view on that matter: "I haven't met anybody who's truly shocked at swearing, really, they're only shocked on behalf of other people. Well, you know, that's preposterous..."
What's that mean?
Yes Ive come across several members that were shocked by this behaviour. all_white comes to mind and Im sure that there are several others I cant remember right now.
You can use swearing as means of release on the haven/haven like posts for example but you cant use it in any other case. You are going to have to find a proper way of adding powerful emotions to a post.
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Hmm, perhaps prior warning is in need then?
How is swearing not "proper"? Because some people happen to dislike it? I still say you take all the people who are genuinely shocked by swearing and show them something called perspective. And also this video:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7gP1xgRDJ4[/youtube]
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Swearing as means of release is allowed at the haven for example. However I dont see how a picture with a swear word/a personal attack... which is what most members are doing would qualify as such.
To add a powerful emotion to a post not.
As for the adult thing you have to understand that not everyone in wp is in the same way and people that are shocked by the use of swearing in other contexts shouldnt have to avoid the adult section.
Look at it this way: if you can see no benefit to swearing where is the benefit in censorship? Where do you draw the line? Do we have a right not to be offended on this website?
Again I feel the need to point out that you agreed to this rules before signing up.
If you dont like the way things are done here you can go to several other forums where things are done in a different way.
There isnt a right not to be offended but Ive received several complaints about overlooking the swear rule and rules and they have the rules on their side so we have to listen to them.
The minute we start receiving complaints about certain topics that shouldnt be discussed in adult... we´ll start doing a similar thing there because again rules would be on the side of the offended people.
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Agreeing to the rules does not mean I won't do my best to fight them when they are quite frankly silly
I actually maintain residence on several websites that are uncensored, I tend to prefer them over censored forums. But, I have yet to find a community this large of aspies and auties that allows me to talk as I actually do in real life.
If we don't have the right to not be offended where does the rule against cursing come from? Why is it there? The only reason to disallow cursing is so that people don't get offended. And again we run in to the problem of where to draw the line, especially when it's such an arbitrary line.
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Hmm, perhaps prior warning is in need then?
How is swearing not "proper"? Because some people happen to dislike it? I still say you take all the people who are genuinely shocked by swearing and show them something called perspective. And also this video:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7gP1xgRDJ4[/youtube]
We are sending reminders to members that are posting swear words and I can assure you that we´ll start sending warnings soon if said members refuse to listen to the reminders
Swearing is not a proper way of expressing yourself here because you agreed to avoid using it before signing up. This works the same way that carrying a gun isnt an acceptable way of defending yourself in countries where carrying them is illegal and it will most likely get you into trouble...
Im sure you are familiar with several websites that have a different policy on this issue and I dont understand why you dont start posting there. As hyperlexian stated recently we provide a service that may not be the best for everyone and you are more than free to look around for a website that allows your need for swearing.
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