Why haven't extraterrestrials made their presence known?

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These are possibilities as I have said. I'm not claiming they have happened. I'm just laying out possibilities and correcting some "conventional wisdom" that such things are impossible. It doesnt appear to be impossible to me.

My comment was clearly addressing the possibility of sub-light interstellar travel without having to invoke faster than light travel and the posters belief that any interstellar travel would be forever impractical. So when I concluded, "Believe whatever you like", that was the context. The practicality of sub-light speed travel. I wasnt exhorting people around the world to kneel before Jesus, search for magic gold, join scientology or believe that aliens are actually here. You seem to have a lot of problems with context. You continually stumble when reading the posts of others in this thread. Best of Luck.

Fair enough ... I did not mean to imply otherwise.


Generation ships have long been a mainstay of Science-Fiction. Speculation is alright, as long as it's clearly labelled as such, so as not to be confused with an actual claim.


Hello! I'm an Aspie! Without explicit declarations, speculations and out-of-context humor seem to elude me. This is why I earned a degree and took up a career in Electrical Engineering. Anything not related to my work is easy to spot and ignore while at work. For instance, if I'm discussing the transfer function of a lambda diode, and someone mentions how his wife has a negative attitude and is resistant to new ideas, I know that what he said is unrelated to work and therefor unimportant.

It is easy for me to assume that anything outside work that is included in a general discussion is somehow relevant to that discussion unless stated otherwise. This is why I don't socialize much.

It would help greatly if people would preface their claims with phrases like, "In my opinion..." or "I believe..." or "It seems like..." or even "The following is only speculation".

If not, then they should expect me and other Aspies like me to assume the literal meaning of their statements, and learn to live with it. Otherwise, they seem to have a problem with tolerance of Aspie-like behavior.

I find this quite common with people who are very religious.

Perhaps the word "religious" itself could be a clue that something non-sequitur is about to be discussed or mentioned.

I don't really believe aliens have visited Earth anymore. I used to but I think I was just delusional, my grandmother is crazy and there's never been decent evidence aliens have ever been here. No more evidence than there is for angels, demons or speaking in tongues.

But ... I think there's probably life on other planets, more intelligent than us. Somewhere. Maybe not in this galaxy. But the Universe is so large and it seems unlikely that we're the most complex things in it.

They haven't made their presence known for a very simple reason: They plan to invade. If that isn't a better reason for them to keep their presence secret, IDK what is.

Their home planet orbited a star at the center of the galaxy in Sagittarius A where there lies a supermassive black hole of several million solar masses. In 2011 this black hole flared up X-ray wise as astronomers observed their star wandering too close. Now this black hole is being orbited by several million planetoid objects including their home planet which will finally be torn apart and swallowed up come December 21, 2012. They found Earth much the same way terrestrial astronomers find distant planets: Through gravitational interferometry. One of their probes is lurking somewhere in our Solar System and makes occasional visits to Earth. The most well known was over Belgium during late 1989(the so-called "Belgian flap" or "Belgian Triangle")and then over Iowa on January 5, 2000. The very first sighting of this probe was actually back in 1968.

Are you being facetious?

Interesting.

I remember a friend of mine seeing a triangular UFO with lights at each corner (much like the ones youre talking about which I also recall seeing on TV) about that time (circa 2000). She saw it while running through the back yard to fetch a beer from the truck for her redneck boyfriend.

But she LONGED to see a UFO for a LONG time before that.

She got excited about seeing a UFO once before. I had to burst her bubble when I told her that this earlier UFO that she described sounded exactly like a B2 bomber ( she lived in the same county as Andrews Airforce Base) - which in all fairness- being all wing and no fuselage- does indeed look like rather alien. She latter told me that she saw a pic of the B2, and that it indeed did "look just like the thing that I saw".

But I digress.

But I still go with my theory.
That the aliens dont have to attack us because they already own the place!

Earth is a game perserve in a vast interstellar alien empire.

The UFO abductess you hear about are specimens being tagged by the Pliedian Fish and Wildlife Department to monitor our species' migration and mating patterns!

Its not invasion, but rezoning, that we have to worry about!

If powerful interest groups among the aliens have our solar system rezoned as a business district instead of a game preserve-then theyll flatten the earth for a walmart. And were screwed!

The ETs (if they exist) live too far away to reach our planet.

The speed of light is the upper bound for moving a massive body everywhere in the cosmos.

ruveyn

Only by brute force.

nothing can survive for long at the speed of light even if it can travel at the speed of light.
anything traveling at the speed of light can not change direction to avoid a collision, because the news of a pending collision would arrive with the collision at the speed of light.
space is not empty, and even a grain of dust would annihilate any capsule traveling at the speed of light, and a grain of dust would surely be encountered within a very short amount of time when traveling at the speed of light.

but with further thought, maybe the fact that an object is infinitely massive at the speed of light would also mean that it is infinitely dense at the speed of light, and maybe collisions of finite densities with infinitely dense objects would be infinitesimally insignificant. that is a thought to return to when i wake up after i boil my eggs and eat them.

whatever. nothing can be propelled to the speed of light because it would take infinite energy to push an infinite mass (which it would be at the speed of light) to any relative speed, let alone tot the speed of light, and even the universe does not contain infinite energy because if it did then it would be like the energy contained in a universally massive singularity, throughout all points of eternal space. pzzzt szzztz krkrkrktzzz. back to the recharge bay for me.

Traveling through a space-time tube effectively makes FTL possible, even though the object moving through it is moving slower than light in its own reference frame. Essentially such an entity shortens the distance between 2 parts of the Cosmos.


@Jono: Are you aware that astronomers have succeeded in observing and imaging the event horizon of the black hole Sagittarius A* ? There are also numerous stares and planetoids that are close enough to it and moving the direction such that they will eventually be sucked into it. So no, I am not being facetious.

Try http://www.csicop.org/si/show/abduction_by_aliens_or_sleep_paralysis. Then search for the key words "alien abduction" and "sleep paralysis". This provides an adequate explanation for the experiences reported by people who say they have been abducted, without extraordinary claims.

I do wonder why the image of those lil grey men came from. They look suspiciously like embryonic humans. Some day in the future, we will find out what they really look like and I hope that when we do we'll be shocked beyond belief.....Something we never could've imagined.

describe in fundamental terms what you are saying or else it is just a catchphrase that sounds smart to people other than me who may read it.

i do allow that you may have a valid point to express but i do not allow that your post is sufficient to express it.

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I don't believe in extraterrestrials visiting our planet, but I like to observe the sky at night in the countryside. I wouldn't mind to see a flying saucer, I have my moments of romaticism.