Some thoughts on the term 'conspiracy theory' and 'skeptic'

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Because there would be survivors, and in the age of the Internet, people would find out pretty much instantly (even back in 2003). And the fact many people are skeptical of the official 9/11 narrative means they really aren't good at covering it up (same with UFOs), just good at getting away with it.

Now with that said, I don't with every fabric of my being believe in UFOs piloted by aliens or that 9/11 wasn't ordered/funded by Osama Bin Laden. But I think both are possibilities that are at least of the same magnitude of likeliness as the mainstream narratives.

Well, the Gulf of Tonkin, the Maine? Ring a bell? Sure, they didn't destroy monuments, but they did kill American people. And I would argue that 9/11 gave the United States increased power in the sense that a victim is seen as being more righteous and is forgiven more easily for their transgressions.

The fact is Bin Laden hasn't been proven to be guilty of either crime, personally I think he is guilty of the Embassy Bombings but not of 9/11. The fact he wasn't wanted for 9/11 but was for the bombings is suspicious.

As for the last comment, what about Lockerbie?

We are not talking about legal procedures. By the way, UBL claimed credit for the 9/11 attack. I will take him at has world.

We have got to stop thinking in terms of the legal model and revert to the kill our enemies war model and if we are mistaken too bad and they are dead. Dead people can't complain and dead people can't sue. I am sure the Air Force killed a lot of innocent Japanese babies in the Pacific War. They are dead and we are alive. Tough noogies.

ruveyn

Yeah in a video that even experts admit is likely a fabrication.

An interesting conceit for science fiction that's a lot harder to apply to real life. I mean, I suppose silicon-based life might be able to pull off this kind of heinously huge time expenditure, but something carbon-based would literally fall apart before that ever managed to happen. Which still leads us back to the all-important questions of, "Why the hell did they come here in the first place?" and, my favorite, "How did we not detect them?" And before you claim anything about government conspiracies, understand that this is a day and age where private satellites float in Earth's skies, where high-powered telescopes are sometimes owned and run by private business interests, and where even your average citizen has some impressive data-crunching capabilities. Things whipping around on or near our planet get noticed by private interests almost as fast (and sometimes faster) than the official ones.

Which brings up another problem, in terms of fuel and energy expenditure. Do you know what the two greatest challenges are with space travel (I'll give you a hint: it's not going forward)? Overheating, and stopping. Getting someplace is as easy as aiming and firing yourself in that direction - you'll get there eventually, since there's nothing to stop you. But in the meantime, you have to find someplace to vent all of the heat in your ship, heat which is not otherwise going anywhere, since there's nothing for it to go into. You can radiate it, of course, but that takes even more energy and makes your high-class Screwin'-Wit-H00manz stealth ship incredibly visible to any kind of telescope, sensors or naked eyeballs. You can transfer it into a substance like air, water, or heat sinks and then kick them out of your ship, but what happens when you run out of stuff to dump the heat into? Even if you kick the ship in the direction it's going and then do absolutely nothing, your body heat would eventually fry everyone on board (and before you say 'cryogenics', power generation creates heat as well, which ironically leads to everyone frying to death even faster).

The second problem, stopping, relates back to that whole 'there's nothing to stop you' bit. There's nothing to stop you. Absolutely friggin' nothing. Even the odd stray hydrogen particle isn't doing much - hell, to even notice that slowing you down in the first place you'd need to be moving over astronomically significant distances (like from one galaxy to another). So if you're going somewhere really, really fast, you have to expend a huge amount of energy (either over time or all at once) to stop, slow down or even just change direction. How are you doing this? Our shuttles and unmanned craft use thrusters that are pointed in the other direction, of course, which seems to work just fine but again has that problem of being highly visible. Moving at a quarter of the speed of light (or any significant fraction of the speed of light) means that whatever process you're using to stop is going to be as visible as a comet's trail - not to mention that, again, moving that fast is raping time with every foot you pass by, and it's generating mind-blowing amounts of heat, heat that is increased by you trying to stop.

Oh, and last, but not least, the faster you go, the more any impact or collision is going to affect you. Moving at significant fractions of the speed of light runs the risk that slamming into bits of interstellar dust, stray molecules or micro-meteorites might cause a kinetic explosion that looks quite a bit like a nuclear bomb going off from the unrestrained and rather impressive action/reaction - one that'll be little comfort to your vaporized corpse, of course, but anyone that managed to see it would get quite a show.



There you go with the cop-out pseudo-religious arguments again. We've seen no significant evidence of alternate dimensions or realities, and they remain a speculative theory to this day. Even if they did exist, how does one assert that they have differing laws of physics and then, if they do, how do those conflicting laws interact? Hell, can they even function outside of their own physical laws? If you build a machine based on Earth's physical laws and then take it to a place where those physical laws are different, its function is impaired, impossible, or even dangerously flawed to the harm of its operator. There's no reason to think that their technologies/bodies/natures would be any different whatsoever in that regard.

Why is that "suspicious"?

We didnt issue an arrest warrant against Tojo for attacking Pearl Harbor, nor for Hitler for attacking Poland and igniting the European part of World War Two.

Nor did we do so against Khaddaffi for Lockerbie, for that matter.

The response to the crime was military, diplomatic, and geopoltical, and not a matter for internal law enforcement.

So why bother with declaring him "wanted"?

Youre getting suspicious of normal expected behavior, not of anomalies. That makes me "suspect" your sanity!

No doubt, interstellar travel isn't easy. But then again, neither was Magellan's Voyage. And as for the bolded - read some accounts of people who take salvia and DMT. Sure, you could explain it away as a form of dreaming, but some of the experiences they have, are incredibly difficult to dismiss as fabrications of our brain.

Not really. If you want evidence for alternate dimensions, see theoretical physics,
not some dude who drinks bong water.

Lulz.

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Vigilans, you are a prince amongst men.

Donnie, you're grasping at straws. We can easily explain the effects of saliva and DMT, and frankly they're not even all that impressive - I've come up with more messed-up crap sober. I think we've reached the point where you should ask yourself why this theory is so important to you that you're inventing explanations to justify it.

What is the difference? Maybe the US government blocks all internet traffic from Iraq and stage fake cities. It would be equally easy for people to find out about UFO's.

funny cause the people that insist on suporting everything with empirical evidence are usualy dicks.

Yeah, those people with facts and methodology on their side, what a bunch of dicks!!

...wow.

Salvia and DMT cause VIVID HALLUCINATIONS. Alternate realities? No, dudes just f****d out of his gourd and seeing things. Fabrications of the brain is precisely what they are, that is all they are, that is all they ever will be. Sure, it might seem real to the tripper in question at the time, but it simply is not so. They are high as a kite and tripping Jupiter sized balls, that's all.

If you want to debate, go for it... but do some research and know what you're talking about if you want to be taken more seriously.

QFT

also why the validity of peoples personal experiences is higly doubtfull on its own.