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19 Mar 2012, 12:39 pm

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And as for the bolded - read some accounts of people who take salvia and DMT. Sure, you could explain it away as a form of dreaming, but some of the experiences they have, are incredibly difficult to dismiss as fabrications of our brain.


...wow.

Salvia and DMT cause VIVID HALLUCINATIONS. Alternate realities? No, dudes just f**** out of his gourd and seeing things. Fabrications of the brain is precisely what they are, that is all they are, that is all they ever will be. Sure, it might seem real to the tripper in question at the time, but it simply is not so. They are high as a kite and tripping Jupiter sized balls, that's all.

If you want to debate, go for it... but do some research and know what you're talking about if you want to be taken more seriously.


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donnie!! Stop being Captain Generalization!!


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21 Mar 2012, 2:50 am

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Yeah, those people with facts and methodology on their side, what a bunch of dicks!!


I called you dicks because of your tone, not because of your opinion. You guys were just being jerks. You are never going to convince anyone to agree with you by acting like that.



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21 Mar 2012, 3:21 am

i'd like anyone that is a firm unbeliever of psychedlic realms to take a large dose of dmt lsd or any other psychedelic and then keep that opinion.



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21 Mar 2012, 3:58 am

thedaywalker wrote:
i'd like anyone that is a firm unbeliever of psychedlic realms to take a large dose of dmt lsd or any other psychedelic and then keep that opinion.


I second that.



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21 Mar 2012, 5:06 am

thedaywalker wrote:
i'd like anyone that is a firm unbeliever of psychedlic realms to take a large dose of dmt lsd or any other psychedelic and then keep that opinion.


Been there, done that.

It was all in my head.


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21 Mar 2012, 8:36 am

donnie_darko wrote:
Vigilans wrote:

Yeah, those people with facts and methodology on their side, what a bunch of dicks!!


I called you dicks because of your tone, not because of your opinion. You guys were just being jerks. You are never going to convince anyone to agree with you by acting like that.


Wait...so all of my posts where I was patiently explaining the evidence and going through the various large, gaping holes in the theory(ies) were me being a dick?


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21 Mar 2012, 9:17 am

thedaywalker wrote:
i'd like anyone that is a firm unbeliever of psychedlic realms to take a large dose of dmt lsd or any other psychedelic and then keep that opinion.
Makes me think of a creationist saying "I dare you take a lobotomy and then argue with me".


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21 Mar 2012, 9:20 am

thedaywalker wrote:
i'd like anyone that is a firm unbeliever of psychedlic realms to take a large dose of dmt lsd or any other psychedelic and then keep that opinion.


What is it about accounts from drug-users that seems so compelling to you? If you have done these substances, please, enlighten us. What makes you so sure you're gazing into a new level of reality instead of suffering the acknowledged neurochemical effects of those substances? If the argument is so compelling you should be able to put it into some manner of writing - go ahead. I'll wait, as I've nothing but time to burn.


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21 Mar 2012, 12:48 pm

donnie_darko wrote:
Vigilans wrote:

Yeah, those people with facts and methodology on their side, what a bunch of dicks!!


I called you dicks because of your tone, not because of your opinion. You guys were just being jerks. You are never going to convince anyone to agree with you by acting like that.


No you said it because you have jack s**t on your side. Myself and others have taken apart every single stupid ancient astronauts position you have and you then have the nerve to describe us as closed minded for that. Ancient astronauts is bullshit, plain and simple, and it is moronic to believe what those people have to say. It is unscientific and insulting to anthropology, as well as incredibly racist. You start with the belief that aliens did it and work backwards from there. That is not how a credible investigation works.

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i'd like anyone that is a firm unbeliever of psychedlic realms to take a large dose of dmt lsd or any other psychedelic and then keep that opinion.


It is all in your head. If you think otherwise, you may need professional help


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21 Mar 2012, 1:21 pm

thedaywalker wrote:
i'd like anyone that is a firm unbeliever of psychedlic realms to take a large dose of dmt lsd or any other psychedelic and then keep that opinion.
Maybe you're right, I would find it a lot easier to believe once I take a large dose of DMT. A large dose of DMT laced with brain damaging chemicals that is.

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And as for the bolded - read some accounts of people who take salvia and DMT. Sure, you could explain it away as a form of dreaming, but some of the experiences they have, are incredibly difficult to dismiss as fabrications of our brain.
Do you even know how the brain works?



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21 Mar 2012, 1:30 pm

It reminds me of a line I heard somewhere "Well, if I was on drugs I'd think he was a genius too", I've believed some truly crazy stuff when I was drunk, or over-tired I never figured it was a separate realm of existence. I do find it slightly funny that the argument being debated is "If you take drugs that makes your brain imagine crazy stuff, you can clearly see that such crazy stuff is real."

"Sorry Your Honor, but I saw that the accused did not commit the crime because he was at the time making out with a unicorn, dressed up as pure energy and being watched by Hades, Lord of the Underworld in a dream caused by massive doses of hallucinogenics"