Board index › Topical Discussion › Politics, Philosophy, and Religion

Intolerance about religion

Page 5 of 5 [ 74 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5

Previous topic | Next topic

Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age:27
Posts: 12,327
Location: Montréal

13 Apr 2012, 2:41 pm

Joker wrote:
To be religious all you need is faith which is stronger then any form of skepticism all the insults about my faith will not change my mind or convert me to being non religious I would be willing to die for my faith I can't say many people would be willing to die for being a non theist.


That's because not being a theist removes a lot of lunacy from the mind of an individual


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


Vexcalibur
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Jan 2008
Age:30
Posts: 5,573

13 Apr 2012, 2:44 pm

Faith is stronger? I think faith makes people weaker. You admit your fate as god's will rather than as something you can and should fix. It is the definition of weakness.

The lord works in mysterious ways.

JuggaspieZ2k wrote:
Why can't people just accept other peoples beliefs? I am sick and tired of "You're going to burn in hell for eternity!" and "Religious people are so stupid!" Christians and athiests do it just the same. I am also sick of people using TRAGEDIES like SCHOOL SHOOTINGS to say "This is why we need prayer in schools." School shootings happen for many different people! 9/11 happened because of religious intolerance! My own religious beliefs is to find your own path, much like paganism but I don't believe in what they believe.
Atheists will stop saying religious people are stupid if you kindly stop trying to push laws that enforce your religious' rules and beliefs as facts for moral law and education. Specially, keep of everybody else's sex ed, reproductive rights and right to learn evolution. Thanks.


_________________
.


Last edited by Vexcalibur on 13 Apr 2012, 2:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Joker
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Mar 2011
Age:26
Posts: 7,593
Location: North Carolina The Tar Heel State :)

13 Apr 2012, 2:45 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Joker wrote:
To be religious all you need is faith which is stronger then any form of skepticism all the insults about my faith will not change my mind or convert me to being non religious I would be willing to die for my faith I can't say many people would be willing to die for being a non theist.


That's because not being a theist removes a lot of lunacy from the mind of an individual


Ha oh I have heard that many times :wink: but I respect your opinon but I don't think you respect mine.



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age:27
Posts: 12,327
Location: Montréal

13 Apr 2012, 2:46 pm

Joker wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Joker wrote:
To be religious all you need is faith which is stronger then any form of skepticism all the insults about my faith will not change my mind or convert me to being non religious I would be willing to die for my faith I can't say many people would be willing to die for being a non theist.


That's because not being a theist removes a lot of lunacy from the mind of an individual


Ha oh I have heard that many times :wink: but I respect your opinon but I don't think you respect mine.


Well I hope you never are faced with the choice of dying for something that doesn't exist. But at least you'll die happy I suppose


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


Joker
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Mar 2011
Age:26
Posts: 7,593
Location: North Carolina The Tar Heel State :)

13 Apr 2012, 2:50 pm

Vigilans wrote:
Joker wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Joker wrote:
To be religious all you need is faith which is stronger then any form of skepticism all the insults about my faith will not change my mind or convert me to being non religious I would be willing to die for my faith I can't say many people would be willing to die for being a non theist.


That's because not being a theist removes a lot of lunacy from the mind of an individual


Ha oh I have heard that many times :wink: but I respect your opinon but I don't think you respect mine.


Well I hope you never are faced with the choice of dying for something that doesn't exist. But at least you'll die happy I suppose


Hmm clever response but it takes more faith not to believe then it does to believe in something that is bigger then yourself.



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age:27
Posts: 12,327
Location: Montréal

13 Apr 2012, 2:55 pm

Joker wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Joker wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
Joker wrote:
To be religious all you need is faith which is stronger then any form of skepticism all the insults about my faith will not change my mind or convert me to being non religious I would be willing to die for my faith I can't say many people would be willing to die for being a non theist.


That's because not being a theist removes a lot of lunacy from the mind of an individual


Ha oh I have heard that many times :wink: but I respect your opinon but I don't think you respect mine.


Well I hope you never are faced with the choice of dying for something that doesn't exist. But at least you'll die happy I suppose


Hmm clever response but it takes more faith not to believe then it does to believe in something that is bigger then yourself.


No, it does not actually


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


Joker
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Mar 2011
Age:26
Posts: 7,593
Location: North Carolina The Tar Heel State :)

13 Apr 2012, 3:02 pm

oh but it does think of God as the mathematical letter X it is the unknown and belief in God is like a belief in something that is uncetin to be real but belief is a very powerful thing. You don't believe in God but I do it is the perfect balance of Yin and Yang one can't existice with out the other.



Vigilans
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Age:27
Posts: 12,327
Location: Montréal

13 Apr 2012, 4:00 pm

I don't really care for yin and yang either


_________________
Opportunities multiply as they are seized. -Sun Tzu
Nature creates few men brave, industry and training makes many -Machiavelli
You can safely assume that you've created God in your own image when it turns out that God hates all the same people you do


Joker
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 19 Mar 2011
Age:26
Posts: 7,593
Location: North Carolina The Tar Heel State :)

13 Apr 2012, 4:03 pm

Vigilans wrote:
I don't really care for yin and yang either


The concept of yin and yang is the natural blance of things.



Grebels
Velociraptor
Velociraptor

User avatar

Joined: 5 Mar 2012
Age:75
Posts: 473

14 Apr 2012, 5:17 pm

Quote:
Faith is stronger? I think faith makes people weaker. You admit your fate as god's will rather than as something you can and should fix. It is the definition of weakness.


Vexcalibur, have you ever had the kind of faith being talked about to know that. My experience is very much otherwise.



muslimmetalhead
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 29 Jul 2011
Age:19
Posts: 1,497

18 Apr 2012, 5:59 pm

What I think a lot of the atheists are complaining about is politicians imposing the "major" religion on non-believers.

I agree this shouldn't be tolerated.

BUT, I believe we should have respect for anyone's intelligence, regardless of their belief or lack thereof.

as long as you can accept things like evolution and the big bang theory and not offend anyone's belief or non-belief, it's all good.


You may disrespect the intelligence of stupid people of certain beliefs, but not the actual belief itself.

However, it should be noted that this does not rule out intelligent discussion of either politics or religion.


That is my stance on the subject. I am also a secularist.


_________________
"I watched a change in you, It's like you never had wings, now you feel so alive"


Terlingua
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker
Yellow-bellied Woodpecker

User avatar

Joined: 17 Apr 2012
Age:49
Posts: 71

18 Apr 2012, 6:08 pm

muslimmetalhead wrote:
What I think a lot of the atheists are complaining about is politicians imposing the "major" religion on non-believers.

I agree this shouldn't be tolerated.

BUT, I believe we should have respect for anyone's intelligence, regardless of their belief or lack thereof.

as long as you can accept things like evolution and the big bang theory and not offend anyone's belief or non-belief, it's all good.


You may disrespect the intelligence of stupid people of certain beliefs, but not the actual belief itself.

However, it should be noted that this does not rule out intelligent discussion of either politics or religion.


That is my stance on the subject. I am also a secularist.


I can respect the intelligence of a person, but not respect their beliefs. An illogical or unsubstantiated belief is subject to criticism. Just because a belief is based on religion and not, say, Bigfoot, doesn't mean that it should be exempted from critical examination.



Rocky
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 May 2008
Age:58
Posts: 2,096
Location: Uhhh...Not Remulak

19 Apr 2012, 5:09 am

Terlingua wrote:
muslimmetalhead wrote:
What I think a lot of the atheists are complaining about is politicians imposing the "major" religion on non-believers.

I agree this shouldn't be tolerated.

BUT, I believe we should have respect for anyone's intelligence, regardless of their belief or lack thereof.

as long as you can accept things like evolution and the big bang theory and not offend anyone's belief or non-belief, it's all good.


You may disrespect the intelligence of stupid people of certain beliefs, but not the actual belief itself.

However, it should be noted that this does not rule out intelligent discussion of either politics or religion.


That is my stance on the subject. I am also a secularist.


I can respect the intelligence of a person, but not respect their beliefs. An illogical or unsubstantiated belief is subject to criticism. Just because a belief is based on religion and not, say, Bigfoot, doesn't mean that it should be exempted from critical examination.


Well said Terlingua! Welcome to WP.



ruveyn
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 21 Sep 2008
Age:78
Posts: 31,726
Location: New Jersey

19 Apr 2012, 5:27 am

Terlingua wrote:

I can respect the intelligence of a person, but not respect their beliefs. An illogical or unsubstantiated belief is subject to criticism. Just because a belief is based on religion and not, say, Bigfoot, doesn't mean that it should be exempted from critical examination.


+1 for truth.

ruveyn