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10 Aug 2012, 6:49 am

If I could live for all eternity without hunger or sickness then yes, I would. If not, I'm good with 100 years. [Everyone in my family lives that long. EVERYONE.]



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10 Aug 2012, 3:36 pm

LennytheWicked wrote:
If I could live for all eternity without hunger or sickness then yes, I would. If not, I'm good with 100 years. [Everyone in my family lives that long. EVERYONE.]


Have you considered the possibility of eternal boredom?

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10 Aug 2012, 3:57 pm

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11 Aug 2012, 12:10 am

in the higher worlds there could be no such thing as boredom. the metaverse is too big for boredom.



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11 Aug 2012, 7:22 am

auntblabby wrote:
in the higher worlds there could be no such thing as boredom. the metaverse is too big for boredom.


Do we have minds big enough to take in the metaverse, or do we bring our limitations into Eternity when we die?

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11 Aug 2012, 11:47 am

ruveyn wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
in the higher worlds there could be no such thing as boredom. the metaverse is too big for boredom.


Do we have minds big enough to take in the metaverse, or do we bring our limitations into Eternity when we die?

as the persian mystic rumi said [paraphrasing], we will become "what no [human] mind conceived." IOW nobody on earth can put more than a tiny bit of eternity in their heads, the brain is not up to that concept, it would be like expecting an 8088 cpu to do a supercomputer task. when we shuffle off our mortal coil, we also shuffle off the limitations of the mortal coil, and trade them in on a higher set of limitations that we [over eons] progressively shuffle off in an eternal process of refinement. after all, presuming that time is a different kind of space, in such a big metaverse, a mere "3 score and 10" would be a big waste [of potential], wouldn't it?



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11 Aug 2012, 2:15 pm

ruveyn wrote:
LennytheWicked wrote:
If I could live for all eternity without hunger or sickness then yes, I would. If not, I'm good with 100 years. [Everyone in my family lives that long. EVERYONE.]


Have you considered the possibility of eternal boredom?

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11 Aug 2012, 2:31 pm

No. Not at all.

Because if we truly are capable of living forever, what value would our actions hold?
We'd have an eternity to fix every problem we make and if we do something right it doesn't even matter, we were bound to do it anyway.
I believe that if we die, our actions and opinions will be that more valuable.
I, for example, want to become a writer. If I only have 70, 60, 50 or even less years to live I only get that much time to become as good as I possibly can. If I can become a succesful, good, praised writer my actions will have value. I only had a specific amount of time to become a praised writer and I managed to do it, so I should feel pride ( provided there is an afterlife) and what I did actually had meaning. Future generations will read my work and will learn from me, which is something I want.
But if I had eternity, what would be the point? I could do whatever I want as I have as much time as I need to do it. So what value is there? What meaning is there? None whatsoever. As I've said before, if you do something you right you were bound to do it anyway.

So in a sense I don't want to become immortal or live forever and the like, but I do want to be remembered for what I did in the small number of years I had. In the end I want to achieve the same Shakespeare or Bram Stoker or even J.K. Rowling did. Because I believe that has true meaning.

In the end would eternal life even be life? There is nothing to truly aspire to become. You can be whatever you want. This century you could become a lawyer, the next century you could become a beggar and the next century...
And not to mention it must be pretty boring if you have to live for the rest of all ages. You're bound to run out of things to do at some point in your endless life.

And wouldn't it be dangerous for this planet? If we all keep reproducing the way we do and none of us dies this planet will die faster than you can count to ten. We all need food, we all need houses, we all need luxury, we all need... Where on earth ( literally) are we going to get that? Of course you can say we could go to other planets, but the problem is that we don't even know if there are other planets that can support life. And even then, there's only so much space in outer space and if we keep growing in numbers the way we do now...


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11 Aug 2012, 11:08 pm

No. I want to see what comes next, whether I obtain knowledge of the universe and perfect clarity. Sort of level up, if you will. I would just like to die gently!



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12 Aug 2012, 10:06 pm

auntblabby wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
in the higher worlds there could be no such thing as boredom. the metaverse is too big for boredom.


Do we have minds big enough to take in the metaverse, or do we bring our limitations into Eternity when we die?

as the persian mystic rumi said [paraphrasing], we will become "what no [human] mind conceived." IOW nobody on earth can put more than a tiny bit of eternity in their heads, the brain is not up to that concept, it would be like expecting an 8088 cpu to do a supercomputer task. when we shuffle off our mortal coil, we also shuffle off the limitations of the mortal coil, and trade them in on a higher set of limitations that we [over eons] progressively shuffle off in an eternal process of refinement. after all, presuming that time is a different kind of space, in such a big metaverse, a mere "3 score and 10" would be a big waste [of potential], wouldn't it?


But when we shuffle off this mortal coil, we wouldn't have any instruments with which to understand the cosmos!



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13 Aug 2012, 12:05 am

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But when we shuffle off this mortal coil, we wouldn't have any instruments with which to understand the cosmos!

implicit in the phrase "shuffling off our mortal coil" is the fact that we have something newer underneath which supercedes the old. a snake shuffles off its skin when it has a new skin ready to replace the old. i believe that a soul does likewise.



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13 Aug 2012, 5:34 pm

I don't know about eternity but indefinitely, yes. People say you'd get bored living hundreds of years, but I don't see why I'd be more bored at 222 and physically young than I am now at 22. Even if I was, boredom is better than being dead!



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13 Aug 2012, 5:39 pm

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Even if I was, boredom is better than being dead!


Tell that to someone locked away in solitary confinement for years upon years


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13 Aug 2012, 5:44 pm

Vigilans wrote:
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Even if I was, boredom is better than being dead!


Tell that to someone locked away in solitary confinement for years upon years


Well, that's pretty extreme, I mean if you're bored but still have your freedom and the possibility to not be bored in the future. :D



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14 Aug 2012, 5:40 am

auntblabby wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
in the higher worlds there could be no such thing as boredom. the metaverse is too big for boredom.


Do we have minds big enough to take in the metaverse, or do we bring our limitations into Eternity when we die?

as the persian mystic rumi said [paraphrasing], we will become "what no [human] mind conceived." IOW nobody on earth can put more than a tiny bit of eternity in their heads, the brain is not up to that concept, it would be like expecting an 8088 cpu to do a supercomputer task. when we shuffle off our mortal coil, we also shuffle off the limitations of the mortal coil, and trade them in on a higher set of limitations that we [over eons] progressively shuffle off in an eternal process of refinement. after all, presuming that time is a different kind of space, in such a big metaverse, a mere "3 score and 10" would be a big waste [of potential], wouldn't it?


"Waste" is a moral judgement, not an objective state of affairs.

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