Would you like to live for all eternity?

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You can't gain something without losing something of equal value. Without death, what would life be

hiya ZiSunSMB welcome to our cool club
or to turn said thought on its head, "without life, what would death be?"

[quote="auntblabby"][quote="ZiSunSMB"]You can't gain something without losing something of equal value. Without death, what would life be [/quote]
hiya ZiSunSMB welcome to our cool club
or to turn said thought on its head, "without life, what would death be?"[/quote]

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Without life i guess death wouldnt be. But its hard to say being that one seems to define the other. The only thing i can say for certain is without life or death you would be human or anything else that constitutes as living on this planet.

That is Zero Sum nonsense.

ruveyn

I think it would be meaningless. Because living for all eternity would mean our concept of time would dissapear.

time provides temporal structure suitable for the limited comprehension of human minds, but it is also an unforgiving taskmaster. once one is free of time, one becomes aware of higher realities.

All existence is physical and is embedded in the space-time continuum. The notion of time-free is absurd.

ruveyn

then kindly prove this.

I think he means that one becomes free of time as an imperative.

how can one prove that all existence is physical?

Even if we could define what 'existence' is, what it means to 'exist', then we still have the problem of defining what 'physical' is.

It's simply not true. Numbers exist, but aren't physical. Spiritual things may also exist.

Numbers are patterns of neural actions in our brains. They have no existence outside our skins.

If there were no sentient beings, there would be no numbers or anything else of an abstract nature. Our brains manufacture abstractions. That is one of the things a brain does for a living.

ruveyn

Sure there would be. Several stars existed before sentient beings did. Mathematics certainly has existence outside of brains. It is not just a construct of sentient beings. It existed before sentient beings did. Yet mathematics is not physical. Saying that it wouldn't exist without brains is as absurd as saying the whole entire universe wouldn't exist without brains.

Every last bit of mathematics I knows was produced by human beings using their human brains. Show us some math that was not produced by a sentient biological being.

The stars are not mathematical objects., They are physical but they can be -described- in a mathematical way. Do not confuse the painting with the subject of the painting.

ruveyn