Are the Muslims really the biggest threat . . .

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Um yeah way to go off-topic. I was clearly comparing Christian terrorism to Islamic terrorism and you took it as an opportunity to play with semantics and soapbox about the evils of capitalism. Just because I used the definition of terrorist as most of us know it, doesn't mean it's an invitation to go lecture me on how politicians use propaganda to gain popular support for their agendas (Noooo really? Who would've ever thought?). If you really wanna know though, I don't have strong feelings about Afghanistan but I'm against Iraq.

Last edited by AceOfSpades on 04 Sep 2012, 6:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.

It's not all about terrorism. It's about feminism and gay rights, as well as other forms of human rights.

Islamic terrorism concerns me very little. The deeply patriarchal culture my neighbours live under does (as do all forms of patriarchy, but I believe they have it worse).

Those semantics and popular interpretations of what terrorism means have already been skewed by the establishment and the gutter media, that was my point in the first place.

Was that statement deliberately lame-sounding?

Sigh...

No, your point was irrelevant. I was comparing Christian terrorism to Islamic terrorism. I didn't mention the US Army or capitalism to begin with, PERIOD. I'm well aware of the media being used as a means to propaganda thank you very much, but that's not what I wanted to discuss so I didn't want to go there in the first place.

Last edited by AceOfSpades on 04 Sep 2012, 6:17 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Make up your own mind.

My mind is simple and mousy.

I ain't Professor Yaffle, that's for sure.

Our biggest threat right now is ourselves.

I don't think so, Islam is just another religion. It is the ones who are brainwashed by the radicals that pose a threat and should be dealt with because terrorists cannot be reasoned with. That does not only apply to Islam extremists, but all extremists. To use a religion to kill thousands if not millions of innocent people who do not go by those beliefs is disgusting in my opinion. It is like the puritans of colonial America forcing native Americans to either convert or perish, same analogy only on a global scale.

And Islam is more bigoted and intolerant than any religion I know.

Right there! You have nailed the basic problem with some religions. No religion or church should be allowed to get a hold of the powers of State. Ever.

ruveyn

I agree with every word.
In the UK our spineless politicians are turning our country into an islamic cess pit.

NOBODY wants muslims in the UK except the traitor politicians and a few bleeding heart do gooders.
99% of the population is sick of none stop muslim immigration.

I would put every single one of them on a leaky boat first thing in the morning and good riddance.

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Should a person who meets all the legal requirements to immigrate to Britain be denied that privilege simply because he is a Muslim? Are all Muslims enemies or likely enemies of the State? Do you think there is any way the a Muslim could be certified as a good and peaceful citizen of the realm? Just asking.

If Islam is potentially hostile to peace in the land (and I believe it is) I have no problem with requiring practicing Muslims to take an oath that they will obey the general laws, not partake in acts of violence or acts threatening violence and not practice any religious principle in a way that is against the general laws of the community (such as abusing women, for example) If that oath is violated than that person should be deported (if foreign born) or put in prison (if home born).. I can put up with Muslims as long as they behave themselves. It amy be necessary to place a Muslim under observation of probation for some period of time until he proves himself to be a quiet law abiding citizen.

If a Muslim is willing to be a quiet and well behaved person, then he should enjoy the same rights as everyone else.

In the days before the Enlightenment, Jews in Europe solved this problem The Rabbis decided that the laws of the domain were imposed on Jews by God and Jews were obliged to obey the laws of the domain as long as they did not require bloodshed, sexual immorality or idol worship. Hence a Jew who was drafted into the army was required to go, because that was the general laws prevailing in the domain. The principle is: Dinat malachuta, din. The Law of the realm is the Law. The Rabbinical courts did not permit a Jew to transgress the laws of realm (except for the above exceptions noted) simply because they were at odds with the Torah. Jews were required to pay their taxes just like everyone else and obey the speed laws etc etc etc. Nor were Jews permitted to block a road on the Sabbath in such a way that a non-Jew would not be able to go on a public way. This was exactly what Jesus meant by rendering unto Caesar what was his and unto God what was His.

ruveyn

Last edited by ruveyn on 05 Sep 2012, 5:35 am, edited 1 time in total.

You're right. I can't walk down the road without being ushered into a mosque. I have to pray to Allah five times a day or they rescind my bin collection. They're shutting down vital services at the local hospital to appease the Islamists. It's awful.

Good grief. I presume in your terrifying vision, it would be illegal to convert to Islam, on pain of deportation (to where?).

Find: 'islamic'; 'muslim'. Replace: Jew; black; gypsy. It gets a bit dodgy, no?