Feminists whats your opinion on men that have been victims

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whats your opinion
mission accomplished 10%  10%  [ 4 ]
men have feelings too 90%  90%  [ 35 ]
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20 Sep 2012, 3:46 pm

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One thing I have learned during my time on this planet is that having a positive view of the world doesn't increase your chances of being abused. Having a negative view of the world can, however, decrease your chances of being helped by people who are good enough to reach out to you, because you can't see them.
I guess you do in a way make a point however I have viewed the world as positive as ever, but no matter what, bad things happen to me and other people will get irate and ruin my view on the world. I guess viewing the world more positively helps but to a certain extent one must not be oblivious to reality. I may at times come off as seeing things in a negative way but I try and see things in a more realistic way out of the harsh experiences. As a result of seeing the world negatively it does tend to get difficult getting help so I get stuck relying on helping myself, a lot of it includes issues regarding trust, however I would rather trust no body than be too trusting with people and getting attacked! I do not want a repeat.


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20 Sep 2012, 3:46 pm

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^I do not assume that people are "bad", but I've learned to trust but verify . I've also learned that if you assume that people are generous and rely on them to help you out when you need it the most, you WILL be let down 9 times out of 10. If people treat me well, I treat them well in return. But if they don't, or they stop, then I reciprocate.

The best strategy in life is put yourself in the company of people who are accepting of you and avoid places where you are unwelcome whenever possible. People ARE going to judge you on things you don't control over and this is not something that you have the power to change. But what keeps me going and helps me deal with people is to remember that whenever people reject me or treat me unfairly, it's not because of me; it's because of THEM.


And FYI JakobVirgil, assuming that most people are inherently good(as I've said before ITT) can easily lead to unrealistic expectations of people that leave you bitter when you discover that people don't live up to them. Choosing truth over happiness ultimately makes you much happier in the long run. Cynical people are hardly ever disappointed. :D


Cynicism is the often the disguise of an Idealist.




Well let's put it this way, I've always never been the kind of person who is willing to accept the world(and the people in it)just the way it is. If that makes me a disguised idealist, well, that's okay with me.


However, the presumption that human behavior is driven by impulse and emotive forces rather than rational, deliberate decision making has cleared up much confusion I used to have about why people do the things they do. And furthermore, the assumption of INSTINCTIVE rather than deliberate selfishness has been extremely helpful to me to reduce the incidence of being taken advantage of. People follow the least action principle: They behave in ways that are as convenient for them as possible. If don't believe me, then try leaving one of your valuables(other than a cellphone) in a public place that is crowded and where there's no security over night and see if it's still there.



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20 Sep 2012, 4:02 pm

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^I do not assume that people are "bad", but I've learned to trust but verify . I've also learned that if you assume that people are generous and rely on them to help you out when you need it the most, you WILL be let down 9 times out of 10. If people treat me well, I treat them well in return. But if they don't, or they stop, then I reciprocate.

The best strategy in life is put yourself in the company of people who are accepting of you and avoid places where you are unwelcome whenever possible. People ARE going to judge you on things you don't control over and this is not something that you have the power to change. But what keeps me going and helps me deal with people is to remember that whenever people reject me or treat me unfairly, it's not because of me; it's because of THEM.


And FYI JakobVirgil, assuming that most people are inherently good(as I've said before ITT) can easily lead to unrealistic expectations of people that leave you bitter when you discover that people don't live up to them. Choosing truth over happiness ultimately makes you much happier in the long run. Cynical people are hardly ever disappointed. :D


Cynicism is the often the disguise of an Idealist.




Well let's put it this way, I've always never been the kind of person who is willing to accept the world(and the people in it)just the way it is. If that makes me a disguised idealist, well, that's okay with me.


However, the presumption (1)that human behavior is driven by impulse and emotive forces rather than rational, deliberate decision making has cleared up much confusion I used to have about why people do the things they do. And furthermore, (2)the assumption of INSTINCTIVE rather than deliberate selfishness has been extremely helpful to me to reduce the incidence of being taken advantage of. People follow the least action principle: (3)They behave in ways that are as convenient for them as possible. If don't believe me, then try leaving one of your valuables(other than a cellphone) in a public place that is crowded and where there's no security over night and see if it's still there.


These are not arguments they are agreements.

1. Assuming people are rational and do stuff on purpose is not only not effective it is a good way to get ones feelings hurt.

2. This is also a good mechanism like bicyclingguitarist and his those damn people shtick.
It helps a body to not take it personal.

3. I have found (and this is totally anecdotal) I can leave my thumb drive in a community college computer for weeks at a time (I am a bit forgetful and sometimes teach classes there) or in one of the department computers (any department not just mine) but in the general computer labs at the university if I go to the bathroom my stick is gone.


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20 Sep 2012, 4:51 pm

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20 Sep 2012, 5:18 pm

It helps not to take things personally, but it's still infuriating when people behave this way towards you and after a while you start to run out of patience for it and decide that you MUST do something. Theft of belongings really does make me quite angry though. I have made some personal progress in terms of how to deal with people who give me a hard time, but much work remains to be done.



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20 Sep 2012, 8:13 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
It helps not to take things personally, but it's still infuriating when people behave this way towards you and after a while you start to run out of patience for it and decide that you MUST do something. Theft of belongings really does make me quite angry though. I have made some personal progress in terms of how to deal with people who give me a hard time, but much work remains to be done.


Nobody (with the exception of the aforementioned thumb-drive) has every stolen anything of mine.


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20 Sep 2012, 9:16 pm

JakobVirgil wrote:
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It helps not to take things personally, but it's still infuriating when people behave this way towards you and after a while you start to run out of patience for it and decide that you MUST do something. Theft of belongings really does make me quite angry though. I have made some personal progress in terms of how to deal with people who give me a hard time, but much work remains to be done.


Nobody (with the exception of the aforementioned thumb-drive) has every stolen anything of mine.



Well then, I guess you should consider yourself quite lucky then.



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20 Sep 2012, 10:52 pm

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It helps not to take things personally, but it's still infuriating when people behave this way towards you and after a while you start to run out of patience for it and decide that you MUST do something. Theft of belongings really does make me quite angry though. I have made some personal progress in terms of how to deal with people who give me a hard time, but much work remains to be done.


Nobody (with the exception of the aforementioned thumb-drive) has every stolen anything of mine.



Well then, I guess you should consider yourself quite lucky then.
I had a guy try to steal my ipod on a city bus once but I confronted him and took it back the look on his face was priceless.


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22 Sep 2012, 4:33 am

I wish the world could listen and follow this to today if everyone was to follow this speech the world would be a better place.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WibmcsEGLKo[/youtube]


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22 Sep 2012, 5:00 pm

By the way, who were the 4 people who voted "mission accomplished"?



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22 Sep 2012, 11:30 pm

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By the way, who were the 4 people who voted "mission accomplished"?
I wish I knew so I could find out why they support male abuse.Perhaps just misandrists.They did choose and have the right to choose even though it may not be a good choice in my eyes but that is just me.


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24 Sep 2012, 5:00 pm

I know this may not always be true but I feel tempted to act like this sometimes! :lol: [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOmIr4TR9lU[/youtube]


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27 Sep 2012, 1:40 pm

@ AspieOtaku

Thank you so much for saying so many awesome things that desperately need to be said.
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You are welcome Bro fist back!!


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