Feminists whats your opinion on men that have been victims

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Really, people?
Feminism =
1.
the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men.
2.
( sometimes initial capital letter ) an organized movement for the attainment of such rights for women.
3.
feminine character.

Notice there's no superiority mentioned, or hatred of men included in the def...

What's your opinion on men traumatized in abusive relationships?

As a person in favor of complete gender equality, I believe the men who have been victims should have gotten angry and beaten their partner with a phone book. Little known fact, phone books do not leave marks, thus making it very hard to press assault charges.

What a bout the menz!!???

What do you expect to be the feminist answer to your question?



Still not able to remember the two letters in your acronym nickname.

Most likely that men have feelings too and to show that they care about men as well, while striving for equality and to prove that they do not hate men. Also that they are aware men are also vulnerable to becoming victims.

As a person in favor of complete gender equality, I believe the men who have been victims should have gotten angry and beaten their partner with a phone book. Little known fact, phone books do not leave marks, thus making it very hard to press assault charges.

Right. I'll kindly allow, despite the context that suggested otherwise, you meant 'partner' as someone of either gender. That would still include women.

I didn't know 'wife' was common usage in gay relationships. Granted, 'lover' is itself indeterminate.

Universality will be useful when there is equality. There is not equality. Saying, from within the society we have right now, "I should be allowed to hit a woman as I would a man" (which you didn't outright say, but you did quote approvingly back at me as an example of universal morality) is to be violently misogynistic. Even with a slight disclaimer, saying "when there is true equality, I should be allowed to hit a woman as I would a man" is f***ing weird. In the context, it is not a simple statement, but comes with a hell of a lot of misogyny, as though the speaker can't wait til it's legitimate to start smacking women around if they annoy him - indeed, as though the speaker would get a kick he just can't from hitting men in the same context.

Similarly, those white people who are obsessed with wanting to say 'n*gger'. 'But it's just a word' - well then, why obsess over that word?



Yes. Yes we do. And they're f***ing brilliant. Your loss.

Don't forget Puddingmouse. She and I discuss 2nd wave vs. 3rd wave feminism while we paint each other's toenails.

edit: trying to drag this back to the OP: The way that men suffer from abuse is different from the way that women suffer from abuse, because most of the abusers of men are smaller than them and most of the abusers of women are larger than them. This leads to more social stigma in the former case, because men are reluctant to report even valid complaints, and to more physical damage in the latter case, because their partners are more capable of causing harm.
Unfortunately, I do still see a lot of jokes about abuse of both genders; just like rape, this isn't a topic that should perceived as 'funny' unless you're mocking the abuser or the abuse itself.

What's your opinion on men traumatized in abusive relationships?

So, saying its Ok to defend yourself with violence against violence is apparantly violent misogyny to you people.

Actually, this does seem quite common with some people - the idea that you should never hit a woman, not even in self-defence or to restrain someone forcefully or someone who is openly being violent. I do think these sorts of people don't live in the real world, as a minority of women exploit that (and the general chivalrous idea that all women are weak beings) in order to cause men harm. That's how domestic violence committed by wives happens.

anyway, if it is self-defense there is also no need to hide the evidence by using a phone book. so it does not appear he was actually speaking of self-defense in his example.

A woman is a lot more likely to be believed in a domestic violence situation by police than the man, especially if she's a good social manipulator and he isn't.

it's probably better to try to leave