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whats your opinion
mission accomplished 10%  10%  [ 4 ]
men have feelings too 90%  90%  [ 35 ]
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09 Sep 2012, 4:48 am

i think it's heinous that so many women do get off scot-free in these situations. i some statistics that showed that women were responsible for a great deal of abuse in relationships, and i think there needs to be a change in how these matters are approached and understood by our legal systems (ok, our whole society actually needs to shift the attitude).


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09 Sep 2012, 4:53 am

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i think it's heinous that so many women do get off scot-free in these situations.


This is a big problem not only in Britain but throughout the Western world in that criminal behaviour that is perceived to be committed by a "weaker" person (like women) get treated disproportionately with kid gloves and don't get punished properly.



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09 Sep 2012, 4:56 am

Anyone that has been a victim of any kind of abuse should try to find a way to get out of there as fast as possible in whatever way they can.

Little known fact(yes I have those as well): The first report of a case of domestic violence from a woman in Spain happened a couple of years ago as far as I know.
This males report was overlooked when he contacted the authorities.
He then went on to contact all the media possible to talk about his outrage and he made quite a lot of money complaining about the treatment he received as well as raising awareness for how this cases are oftenly overlooked.
All media agreed that this needed to be changed and police officers have started being a lot more careful on all cases of domestic violence regardless of the gender.
This is what needs to happen everywhere.



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09 Sep 2012, 4:57 am

spongy wrote:
This is what needs to happen everywhere.


This. We agree on something! :D



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09 Sep 2012, 3:28 pm

What's frightening as well is that I think we aspies both male and females may fall easy prey in abusive relationships.I know I was an easy target.


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09 Sep 2012, 4:45 pm

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and my current wife is wonderful understanding and pregnant.


Pregnant is inherently good?



Hell no. But billions of women seem to think so.




I wonder who voted for the "mission accomplished" option......



09 Sep 2012, 4:50 pm

Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?



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09 Sep 2012, 4:57 pm

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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?
Because they adhere to the male code not to hit a lady no matter what, not to mention chivalry.


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09 Sep 2012, 5:01 pm

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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?
Because they adhere to the male code not to hit a lady no matter what, not to mention chivalry.




The least I would do if a woman tried to hit me was block her slaps/punches(and be ready to catch her kicks) and if she kept it up I'd go so far as to restrain her. I honestly don't think that restraining a woman who's physically out of control(the way you would a child who's having a tempter tantrum)is equivalent to hitting her, kicking her, or any sort of physical manhandling that results in pain or injury.



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09 Sep 2012, 5:06 pm

Lets not forget the trust dance of manly brotherhood of men[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f311XTtqPgc[/youtube]to be a man you must have honor,honor and a peeeenisss!! !! *twirls around*


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09 Sep 2012, 5:06 pm

Tequila wrote:
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So, saying its Ok to defend yourself with violence against violence is apparantly violent misogyny to you people.


Actually, this does seem quite common with some people - the idea that you should never hit a woman, not even in self-defence or to restrain someone forcefully or someone who is openly being violent. I do think these sorts of people don't live in the real world, as a minority of women exploit that (and the general chivalrous idea that all women are weak beings) in order to cause men harm. That's how domestic violence committed by wives happens.

Saying that someone should 'get mad and beat his attacker with a phone book because it won't leave marks, and therefore can't be prosecuted,' is very different from saying that people should defend themselves.



09 Sep 2012, 5:07 pm

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Tequila wrote:
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So, saying its Ok to defend yourself with violence against violence is apparantly violent misogyny to you people.


Actually, this does seem quite common with some people - the idea that you should never hit a woman, not even in self-defence or to restrain someone forcefully or someone who is openly being violent. I do think these sorts of people don't live in the real world, as a minority of women exploit that (and the general chivalrous idea that all women are weak beings) in order to cause men harm. That's how domestic violence committed by wives happens.

Saying that someone should 'get mad and beat his attacker with a phone book because it won't leave marks, and therefore can't be prosecuted,' is very different from saying that people should defend themselves.



Correct. It's a JOKE(about the phonebooks).



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09 Sep 2012, 5:15 pm

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LKL wrote:
Tequila wrote:
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So, saying its Ok to defend yourself with violence against violence is apparantly violent misogyny to you people.


Actually, this does seem quite common with some people - the idea that you should never hit a woman, not even in self-defence or to restrain someone forcefully or someone who is openly being violent. I do think these sorts of people don't live in the real world, as a minority of women exploit that (and the general chivalrous idea that all women are weak beings) in order to cause men harm. That's how domestic violence committed by wives happens.

Saying that someone should 'get mad and beat his attacker with a phone book because it won't leave marks, and therefore can't be prosecuted,' is very different from saying that people should defend themselves.



Correct. It's a JOKE(about the phonebooks).
I wonder if a taser or pepper spray would work for self defence!! :chin:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ1FzYZPP74&feature=fvwrel[/youtube]


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09 Sep 2012, 5:28 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?


I've know several.

They were of the opinion that it "doesn't matter" if a woman hits a man because woman can't do "real" damage against males.

Thankfully, I've noticed this attitude seems to be changing with some of the younger guys.


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09 Sep 2012, 5:34 pm

LKL wrote:
Tequila wrote:
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So, saying its Ok to defend yourself with violence against violence is apparently violent misogyny to you people.


Actually, this does seem quite common with some people - the idea that you should never hit a woman, not even in self-defence or to restrain someone forcefully or someone who is openly being violent. I do think these sorts of people don't live in the real world, as a minority of women exploit that (and the general chivalrous idea that all women are weak beings) in order to cause men harm. That's how domestic violence committed by wives happens.

Saying that someone should 'get mad and beat his attacker with a phone book because it won't leave marks, and therefore can't be prosecuted,' is very different from saying that people should defend themselves.


I was being sarcastic about the phone book, but not about responding to violence with violence in kind. That's not to say that you should beat the s**t out of someone that attacks you, but enough violence to stop the assault would be my recommendation.

In response to Tequila:
My grandfather's exact words were "never hit a lady", engaging in violent behavior is very unladylike.