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09 Sep 2012, 5:36 pm

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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?


I've know several.

They were of the opinion that it "doesn't matter" if a woman hits a man because woman can't do "real" damage against males.

Thankfully, I've noticed this attitude seems to be changing with some of the younger guys.
Some go to the lengths of chasing a man with a kitchen knife and taunt them to hit them and laugh about it.My ex did just that I never did hit her though I kept telling her a real man does not raise his hand against a woman and she scoffed at me then falsely went around telling people I was hitting her.I never did though and whenever she taunted me to hit her whenever I had a melt down I took all the hatred and physical damage on myself and she told me how pathetic I was and that I am trying to get her pity.It got bad to the point where it led this scar on my wrist Image


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09 Sep 2012, 5:44 pm

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Some go to the lengths of chasing a man with a kitchen knife and taunt them to hit them and laugh about it.My ex did just that I never did hit her though I kept telling her a real man does not raise his hand against a woman and she scoffed at me then falsely went around telling people I was hitting her.I never did though and whenever she taunted me to hit her whenever I had a melt down I took all the hatred and physical damage on myself and she told me how pathetic I was and that I am trying to get her pity.


Your ex sounds like a piece of work. The irony of the whole matter is that one is always told that "ignoring it" is "taking the high ground" or "the narrow path" or whatever platitude a person elects to use to rationalize subservient behavior. A real man or woman knows their own boundaries, and makes it very clear how it will be enforced if a person elects to cross them. A "real" man or woman also does not make empty threats.



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09 Sep 2012, 5:45 pm

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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?


I've know several.

They were of the opinion that it "doesn't matter" if a woman hits a man because woman can't do "real" damage against males.

Thankfully, I've noticed this attitude seems to be changing with some of the younger guys.
some go to the lengths of chasing a man with a kitchen knife and taunt them to hit them and laugh about it.My ex did just that I never did hit her though I kept telling her a real man does not raise his hand against a woman and she scoffed at it then falsely went around telling people I was hitting her.I never did though and whenever she taunted me to hit her whenever I had a melt down I took all the hatred and physical damage on myself and she told me how pathetic I was and that I am trying to get her pity.


I'm VERY sorry to hear that. I grew up with domestic violence, so it touches a nerve with me.

I sincerely hope you received/are receiving the help and support you need.

I work in a male-dominated industry, and I've heard some awful stories of psycho girlfriends/wives. It's really sad the way some women think they have a "right" to physically assault males. No man "deserves" that, and I think that there needs to be much more awareness of physical and emotional abuse against boyfriends/husbands.

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09 Sep 2012, 6:36 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?


I've know several.

They were of the opinion that it "doesn't matter" if a woman hits a man because woman can't do "real" damage against males.

Thankfully, I've noticed this attitude seems to be changing with some of the younger guys.
some go to the lengths of chasing a man with a kitchen knife and taunt them to hit them and laugh about it.My ex did just that I never did hit her though I kept telling her a real man does not raise his hand against a woman and she scoffed at it then falsely went around telling people I was hitting her.I never did though and whenever she taunted me to hit her whenever I had a melt down I took all the hatred and physical damage on myself and she told me how pathetic I was and that I am trying to get her pity.


I'm VERY sorry to hear that. I grew up with domestic violence, so it touches a nerve with me.

I sincerely hope you received/are receiving the help and support you need.

I work in a male-dominated industry, and I've heard some awful stories of psycho girlfriends/wives. It's really sad the way some women think they have a "right" to physically assault males. No man "deserves" that, and I think that there needs to be much more awareness of physical and emotional abuse against boyfriends/husbands.

Good luck!
Thank you for the support, hard for me to admit it but after reading it brought me tears of joy, and yes luckily I was able to get help and out of that situation. I managed to have my ex fiance kicked out of my apartment and had another ex of mine who was still good friends with me even though were werent together anymore protect me from her.The lady who protected me is kinda a tom boy knows karate and wears steel toe boots she seriously wanted to kick my ex fiances ass and put her in the hospital but I told her no I dont want to have to bail her out of jail lol anyway she physicly escorted my ex fiance out and I was able to issue a restraining order against her.I dont know why but I feel like I am at the verge of breaking down in tears so emotional right now mostly joy though.I think ill step away from the computer so I dont get tears on my keyboard. :cry:


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09 Sep 2012, 8:40 pm

Ok I'm back sorry about the emotional post I just felt really moved is all.


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09 Sep 2012, 8:40 pm

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and my current wife is wonderful understanding and pregnant.


Pregnant is inherently good?



Hell no. But billions of women seem to think so.




I wonder who voted for the "mission accomplished" option......

i don't think most of them care too much about pregnancy itself. i think it is just a stopping point along the way and the goal is a child.


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09 Sep 2012, 8:42 pm

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Ok I'm back sorry about the emotional post I just felt really moved is all.

nothing wrong with being moved. you had a terrible experience and it is good that people can connect with you and support you.


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09 Sep 2012, 9:12 pm

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and my current wife is wonderful understanding and pregnant.


Pregnant is inherently good?



Hell no. But billions of women seem to think so.




I wonder who voted for the "mission accomplished" option......

i don't think most of them care too much about pregnancy itself. i think it is just a stopping point along the way and the goal is a child.



That's not what my mama said! :P



Also, plenty of current and former preggers have told me that pregnancy is something they very much enjoyed. I've also ready countless anecdotes and even stats suggesting that most preggers enjoy that stage a great deal. They get treated like a queen and are the center of attention amongst their family and friends. Why is there all this talk about post-partum depression but no talk of it during pregnancy?



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09 Sep 2012, 9:26 pm

AspieRogue wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
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puddingmouse wrote:
JakobVirgil wrote:
and my current wife is wonderful understanding and pregnant.


Pregnant is inherently good?



Hell no. But billions of women seem to think so.




I wonder who voted for the "mission accomplished" option......

i don't think most of them care too much about pregnancy itself. i think it is just a stopping point along the way and the goal is a child.



That's not what my mama said! :P



Also, plenty of current and former preggers have told me that pregnancy is something they very much enjoyed. I've also ready countless anecdotes and even stats suggesting that most preggers enjoy that stage a great deal. They get treated like a queen and are the center of attention amongst their family and friends. Why is there all this talk about post-partum depression but no talk of it during pregnancy?

i haven't seen any of that :? . they find the good in it usually (carrying new life, excitement for the future, etc), but a lot of it has big downsides. i sense that you're looking to put a negative spin on women enjoying pregnancy, but i don't even see enjoyment to that degree in my circle of friends.

also, this has nothing to do with the topic.


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09 Sep 2012, 10:53 pm

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Other than men who are short in stature and/or physically weak due to illness or disability, why would ANY man who is at least as big as his wife(and especially those men who are bigger) not respond with force against a gf/wife who attacks him physically?


I've know several.

They were of the opinion that it "doesn't matter" if a woman hits a man because woman can't do "real" damage against males.

Thankfully, I've noticed this attitude seems to be changing with some of the younger guys.



I'm thankful for that as well. Chivalry is outmoded. I view chivalrous men of the 21st century as wimps.



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10 Sep 2012, 2:46 am

This song reminds me of my past experience [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHbNU9WuVgw[/youtube]


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10 Sep 2012, 3:05 am

A friend of mine got his jaw wired by his ex.



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10 Sep 2012, 6:15 pm

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A friend of mine got his jaw wired by his ex.
Ouch how did that happen?Did she shatter his jaw with a baseball bat or something? 8O I guess I was lucky most of the abuse I suffered wasnt as physical but more mental it can lead to self physical harm though. :roll:


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12 Sep 2012, 12:04 pm

My issues with feminism are:

1) It's vengeful. Even though some feminists are pacifists and a lot of them are against the death penalty and stuff, there's an undeniable under-belly of anger in the movement towards men, and an over-inflated sense of perceived victimhood. I dislike how they characterize and define women as a victim class. Though perhaps if I were female and had a lot of creepy unwanted attention from males and possibly other females maybe I'd be a little bit bitter and vengeful myself? It just annoys me how *some* self-identified feminists act like men's issues are almost trivial in comparison to their own.

2) I actually think gender roles in moderation are a good thing. I think encouraging men and women to act exactly the same on average could only be done via force. Society probably exaggerates gender roles and certainly things like wearing pink are probably subjective but I disagree that gender roles are purely social constructs, I see them as being genetically rooted and amplified by society but not actually an invention of society. Gender roles should be less rigid to account for individuality yes but overall I dislike the militarization of women feminism promotes.

3) Postmodernism and political correctness annoy me greatly and most *self-described* feminists from my experience are pomo and PC.



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12 Sep 2012, 12:35 pm

That s**t you don't like about feminism? How it makes you angry? How it hurts your feelings? Imagine experiencing that all day, every day, the messages encoded in just about everything around you. Also, this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85HT4Om6JT4[/youtube]

And it's not about forcing people to be the same. Jeezy McCreezy.