autism is why it's impossible to believe in God

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CaptainTrips222
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07 Jan 2013, 8:06 pm

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by right of baptism i am LDS which teaches that at the day of judgement, our bodies will rise from the grave, free from 'imperfection'. Does this mean i will lose my autism? If so will i still truly be me?


And what is imperfection? What's the difference between an imperfection and something that's just different than the norm? A lot of things that are considered imperfect are survival mechanisms, without which we wouldn't be here. It gets so hard to believe in religion when it leaves so much unanswered.



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07 Jan 2013, 8:11 pm

I think the most immediate criteria for 'imperfection' would be anything that stops you from being maximally you. Past that if there are physical compulsions that push you to sin like water sends you to the urinal there would likely be some tweaking of appetites but I'd think those two things would be catch-all and tweaking appetites would be redundant if the adjustment is to make you more maximally you anyway.



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07 Jan 2013, 9:10 pm

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Yes, I think someone needs to review the myth of Horus. There are similarities between the story of Jesus and the myth of Osiris/Horus, as well as Mithra and others. But they're only similarities, not exact details, and pinning the date December 25th on the birth of Horus is deliberately deceptive, IMO. (It mightn't be that off-base with Mithra, mind you.) Also, Osiris wasn't crucified, he was dismembered. Virgin birth is a common theme in many myths, because it represents a pure state of being from which the god is believed to spring. But that's not proof of anything either - that Jesus existed or not.


Yes, correlation is not causation. But even the virgin birth part is something you'll hardly spot in any of the other mythologies.

A virgin birth is supposedly when someone is born through a woman who is still a virgin.

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So yeah, BS. But there is no "proof" that Jesus was a real individual or wasn't, or that Moses was or wasn't. Or the Buddha was or wasn't. Religion isn't about proof anyway, is it? Unless you're a fundamentalist.


There's no proof for any historical character really. But one can count on Occam's razor to demonstrate that it is more likely that Jesus existed than that he did not. Of course, I'm referring to a normal human Jesus here. The supernatural exaggerated version is most likely just fictional.



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11 Jan 2013, 11:55 am

Autism doesn't make it impossible to believe in God. I've spent a few years in therapy for autism and at this point I just come across as introverted and not autistic. I'm 36 years old now, and done a fair bit of spiritual searching.

There are some things about being religious or going to church that are not necessarily the most spiritual. Like the social hour after church- its rather neutral to "be social" even though many extroverts want to think being spiritual and social are much the same. But these things can also be spiritually negative, too many people turn to other people and don't listen to their own inner conscience and intuition, and its here somebody who is introverted might have an advantage. The Bible is full of prophets that had their own inner vision and hearing of God and no longer cared so much about being accepted. Indeed, some of them were accused of being crazy. So being religious is not at all about "getting along with people" necessarily, and neither is being autistic or having social difficulties automaticly something that makes God irrelevent.

I do not pretend to understand God. If I could, God would not be God. But I do believe that Jesus is how God wants us to think of Him as much as we can think of God at all. And I believe God understands me perfectly, and understands you perfectly as well, even if our own understanding is not perfect.



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12 Jan 2013, 12:27 am

Why blame God for what was probably a personal choice in spirit before birth?