03 Jul 2013, 6:58 pm
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03 Jul 2013, 8:48 pm
I know the peaceniks and tree huggers hate him because he goes out in the woods and shoots critters and eats them but what else?
Inquiring minds want to know.....
Children, this is what I mean by tree huggers. These people should be living within padded walls.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElJFYwRtrH4[/youtube]
03 Jul 2013, 9:01 pm
^^^^Some people cry,some monkey wrench 
And no ones ever been hurt in an ELF attack.
03 Jul 2013, 9:03 pm
And no ones ever been hurt in an ELF attack.What does that mean?
03 Jul 2013, 9:16 pm
03 Jul 2013, 9:59 pm
I don't have time or the inclination to read all of that but at a glance it appears to give instructions on and/or condone eco-terrorism which is still terrorism. 
I have a story about that but I'll make it short.
We had a tree hugging left wing nutjob at work (recently retired) that had a chainsaw accident while on his property in the mountains. He was getting things ready to retire there and was cutting trees. Yes, a peacenik tree hugger cutting trees down with a chain saw if you can believe that.
Anyhoo, he tore up a chain or two on those trees because they had been spiked. It was then that he remembered that he'd spiked those trees when he was 15. He actually told us that then got mad when we laughed our asses off at him. That property had been in his family since he was a kid and they'd go there on weekends to get away. He and his old lady bought some of that land off of his folks to retire on in recent years.
We asked him why he, a GD tree hugger, was cutting down trees and his answer was that those trees were blocking their view of the valley.
This same idiot, who also would whine incessantly about SUV's and non-green vehicles, bought an old '84 Jeep Wagoneer which is about as green as a lump of coal.
When asked why, he simply answered that he'd gotten a good deal on it. He drove it to work every day instead of his little Hyundai. Of course, he got furious when we'd pick on him for being a hypocrite. We had so much fun tormenting that douche but he'd keep handing us more ammo to use.
03 Jul 2013, 10:23 pm
I don't think spiking trees is ok,if one gets to the saw mill with a spike in it,it can throw a piece of metal into some one.You wanted the def of monkey wrenching so I supplied it.I have noticed that some of the die hard tree huggers here have houses that are all wood.Seems like they would use rock,no shortage of them here.I support sustainable logging,which was done here by the locals.But I hate clear cuts,in South Ark Weyerhaeuser and IP would bull doze down huge old oaks into winrows,let them rot,and plant their damm pine tree plantations. I have 20 acres of marketable large timber and I have no plans to ever log it.One sneaky spike trick timber buyers would use if you didn't want to sell your large walnut trees is to drive copper spikes into a tree,this eventually kills the tree,and then they show back up and offer to buy your dead tree.I have walnut trees so big I can't reach around them.To hug them you know I can gather the walnuts in the fall and Hammons buys them,they will even hull some for you.Or you can spread them out in the drive way and back over them a few times.Black Walnut cake is delicious.
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03 Jul 2013, 10:58 pm
The concept of linking a Small Government platform (the Fiscal Conservatives) with a Christian platform (the Social Conservatives) seems to have backfired for the GOP, as the latter is dragging down the former.
I have identified 3 key problems with the current Republican platform which combine into a simple ultimatum: Reform or Die.
1. The Republicans have lost The Female Vote
2. The Republicans have lost The Young Vote
3. The Republicans have lost The Non-White Vote
1. The female vote
The 2012 election had the greatest documented gender gap since Gallup started polling it in 1952. The Democrats have reliable held the Female Vote for 20 years, while the Male Vote is only conditionally in favour of the Republicans.
This suggests that the Republican party platform is currently systematically unappealing to female voters. If the Republicans were to attempt to rectify this disadvantage, they would somehow have to reach out to female voters. However, the Social Conservatives are adamantly pushing the Anti-Abortion agenda within the party, at state level and at the federal level. So the Republicans seem to be between a rock and a hard place: If they compromise on abortion (or more broadly: Women's reproductive rights) they will lose Social Conservative voters (my guess is that quite a few will simply choose not to vote), and if they do not, they will continue to lose the Female Vote.
And with people like Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock, it will be extremely easy for Democrats to file the "War on Women" charge against the Republicans again.
And even though the Republican won the Male Vote, they lost the election. In other words, the Democrats (for the time being) can "afford" to have a platform that appeals less to men, as its appeal to women more than compensates for this disadvantage.
2. The Young Vote
Christianity remains at the core of US Conservatism. However, religiosity is declining in the US, thus gradually eroding the Conservative voter base.
And if one digs a bit deeper, it turns out that younger religious voters are also less politically religious - that is, their religion is less likely to influence their views on issues such as homosexuality and abortion than older voters. Meaning that Conservatism will have an increasingly harder time appealing to even the Christian Vote. Time itself is against Conservatism, it would seem.
See more here: http://www.pewforum.org/Age/Religion-Am ... px#beliefs
3. The Non-White Vote
As I have mentioned before on WP, I consider this the number one challenge to the Republicans, simply because of the number of voters it involves.
Once again, Pew delivers:
Now, here is the 2012 vote by race:
The Republicans are failing miserably at attracting Non-White voters. My guess is that the Social Conservative Platform only appeals to Southern Whites while alienating everyone else.
Another look at the same numbers:
It won't take a political mastermind to paint the Republicans as a racist party, regardless of its actual truth value.
4. Conclusion
So, is it over? Will Conservatism crash and burn due to demographic changes? Or have I missed some crucial variable or misinterpreted others?
And - assuming that I'm right - what kind of Republican party will emerge from the ashes of the current one?
Yes, in 20 years the majority the old white men will die out. The real question is, will the country ever recover from their reign of terror? I think it will be very difficult.
03 Jul 2013, 11:26 pm
We're not all old so don't hold your breath.
I bet you're one of the ones that compared the Bush administration to the Third Reich or the Sith. This is definitely in line with that kind of thinking.
Reign of terror..............
03 Jul 2013, 11:29 pm
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