Is it creepy for older men to prefer younger women?

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Is it creepy for older guys to prefer younger women?
Poll ended at 29 Aug 2013, 8:25 pm
Yes 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
No 58%  58%  [ 23 ]
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02 Jan 2014, 9:08 pm

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Dafuq I just see? I expect to see those pics in Adult autism issues! :lol: 8O AP at it again!


Well, we did go from ephebophilia to whether men were capable of painting or depicting sex interestingly, to the satisfaction of the discerning Feminist eye. At least my examples didn't show any bare areolae, so, hopefully, no-one fell into a swoon.



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02 Jan 2014, 9:48 pm

salamandaqwerty wrote:
can you always tell the difference between a 13 year old girl and a 16 year old girl? its only 3 years difference. do you think you could instinctively know the difference and be more attracted to one more than the other based on the survivability ratios of your offspring? pfft
thin line mate thin line


I am addressing the issue from what is scientifically known about human biology..and the human mating process..

I am not attracted to teenagers at all..i'm 53 years old and well past any ideas about reproducing..and sex does not interest me that much..the actual sex act..that is...

But..personally i don't have any problem distinguishing a 13 year old female from a 16 year old female..generally speaking there are always exceptions to generalities..though....

Pornography is dominated by marketing 'slightly' under 18 year girl old legal 'looking' girls and this is the major pornography market for men world wide...

The reason for that is simple..one word..

Biology..

There is no question that men overall are attracted to young looking fertile females..given all other cultural factors out of the equation...


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03 Jan 2014, 12:02 am

Statistically, the time when a pregnancy is most likely to result in a healthy infant and a healthy mother is the mid-20's. Claiming that attraction to teenagers is based in biology is... self-serving, at best.



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03 Jan 2014, 12:03 am

Someone had asked a question about taking a girls virginity. I ever have but I have had several opportunities. I was kind of afraid of causing pain and so in the one time I didn't chicken out or get interrupted I gave her oral sex instead. Not sure if that counts.


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03 Jan 2014, 2:48 am

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Statistically, the time when a pregnancy is most likely to result in a healthy infant and a healthy mother is the mid-20's. Claiming that attraction to teenagers is based in biology is... self-serving, at best.


I'm not sure if you are addressing me..

But in no way am i saying that attraction to teenagers is based in biology...

What I specifically said is it is based on fertility..per young fertile women....

And if you will read my last several posts i clearly stated that peak fertility occurs later than the younger teenage years...

Obviously pornographers take it to the extreme..and no they usually are not biology majors...

The cultural factors do play a part in this..extreme part...well beyond the biological factors...

Per page 14 of this thread as quoted below:

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Of course it's not Universally true..

Humans act upon culture at least as much as biology..

Both Environment and Biology play a role..

But inherently speaking..overall..when it comes to reproduction..men will choose healthy fertile women..and no i'm not talking about frigging 13 years olds..

Full reproductive maturity..per survival rate of children..occurs well after that..point....


But if you were not addressing me..please disregard this entire message..

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03 Jan 2014, 4:53 am

Δ Why did you feel the need to edit your post where you stated that peak reproductive survivability peaks at 16?
I am tired of this bolloks ap you clearly mention desires with young teenage girls, if you don't find this creepy good for you you are obviously very proud of your kink, safe and faceless on an forum where you don't have to worry about any real repercussions or human interaction which is probably how you prefer your sex life. We never discussed art or the other stuff you mentioned, you just goaded me into rashly responding to your posts and spammed some pictures. I feel bored and tired responding to this and it will be my last reply. I wish you and your box of tissues a long and happy marriage. Bye bye


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03 Jan 2014, 8:29 am

salamandaqwerty wrote:
Δ Why did you feel the need to edit your post where you stated that peak reproductive survivability peaks at 16?


If you're addressing me: I never stated that. I did state that some girls do start breeding at that age, and that, in some jurisdictions, 16-year-olds are freshly available for legal consensual coitus and for marriage. I really don't know anything about peak reproductive survivability. Some people claim that it peaks at the mid-twenties. I do know that if a woman waits much later than that, then the chances of conceiving and gestating a live baby fall dramatically.

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I am tired of this bolloks ap you clearly mention desires with young teenage girls, if you don't find this creepy good for you you are obviously very proud of your kink, safe and faceless on an forum where you don't have to worry about any real repercussions or human interaction which is probably how you prefer your sex life.


I didn't say that I was going to act on such desires. I'm too old for that, anyway. I'm content with looking at girls in bikinis. I proposed that such desires may exist somewhere within the psyches of heterosexual males, but are kept repressed, and occasionally manifest themselves innocently in popular music and art. Your apparent anger at the topic may suggest that you have difficulties with masking similar issues.

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We never discussed art or the other stuff you mentioned, you just goaded me into rashly responding to your posts and spammed some pictures.


We did discuss popular music and art as avenues where sexual desires for young women are made apparent. And, we discussed whether men were capable of producing sexual art that would appeal to Feminists, and what such art would resemble.

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I feel bored and tired responding to this and it will be my last reply. I wish you and your box of tissues a long and happy marriage. Bye bye


Aw, you're sweet. :D



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03 Jan 2014, 8:44 am

Referring to Auguste Rodin's iconic statue The Kiss

salamandaqwerty wrote:
that image is far from obscene what would you consider obscene?


I didn't state that I considered it obscene. The figures, however, are nude, and, when viewed from a different angle, the woman's nipples are clearly visible. I've found that Feminists are shocked and offended by depictions of women's bare nipples in art.

In proposing depictions of the 69 position as a sexual image that would be pleasing to Feminists: so far, no complaints from them, but plenty of complaints from the gents. Interesting.



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03 Jan 2014, 9:52 am

salamandaqwerty wrote:
Δ Why did you feel the need to edit your post where you stated that peak reproductive survivability peaks at 16?
I am tired of this bolloks ap you clearly mention desires with young teenage girls, if you don't find this creepy good for you you are obviously very proud of your kink, safe and faceless on an forum where you don't have to worry about any real repercussions or human interaction which is probably how you prefer your sex life. We never discussed art or the other stuff you mentioned, you just goaded me into rashly responding to your posts and spammed some pictures. I feel bored and tired responding to this and it will be my last reply. I wish you and your box of tissues a long and happy marriage. Bye bye


Well AP i could be incorrect but it appears that he is addressing me.. at least it appears that way..since there is a triangle there pointing to my post... But if he is he is slandering me here..NO I WILL NOT ACCEPT..

AS THERE IS NO STATEMENT EVER ON THIS SITE WHERE I SAID I AM ATTRACTED TO TEENAGERS..THERE IS THE PRECISE STATEMENT THAT I AM NOT ATTRACTED TO TEENAGERS AND NOT EVEN THAT MUCH INTERESTED IN THIS THING CALLED SEX THAT MUCH AT ALL NOW AT 53....

BUT POSTER 'S' IF YOU WERE NOT ADDRESSING ME WITH THE TRIANGLE THINGY NEVER MIND..

STATING SOMEONE SAID THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO TEENAGERS IN A SEXUAL WAY IS AN IMPLICATION OF potential PEDOPHILIA-WHICH IS A CRIME..

AND YES A SERIOUS CASE OF POTENTIAL CIVIL CASE SLANDER..

NOT A THREAT..JUST A LITTLE EDUCATION ON THE LAW....FOR loosely stating things like this about someone ON any internet forum...for anyone..even if you are NOT addressing me....

I type extremely fast..about 130 words a minute..occasionally i do make typos and edit my errors..

Rarely do i ever need to correct context or even grammar...

I also have close to a photographic memory..and read on average about 10 to 15 times faster that the average human being..

I say what i mean...and know what i say...


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03 Jan 2014, 10:01 am

Lusting after the Young Chicks is as natural as breathing.



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03 Jan 2014, 10:09 am

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Lusting after the Young Chicks is as natural as breathing.


Yeah. It does seem rather odd for men to be accusing each other of lusting after young chicks, and denying that we lust after young chicks.

We might as well be accusing each other of breathing.



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03 Jan 2014, 10:13 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Lusting after the Young Chicks is as natural as breathing.


Yeah. It does seem rather odd for men to be accusing each other of lusting after young chicks, and denying that we lust after young chicks.

We might as well be accusing each other of breathing.


And breathing hard at that.



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03 Jan 2014, 10:19 am

Well..modern science clearly indicates that men are attracted to visual images of the opposite sex much stronger than females..

IN our culture ..from an environmental perspective..

Teenage girls dress in provocative ways that stimulate this visual stimulation....

If they did not promote their wares..men would be much less likely to look and yes to lust...

As men do tend to lust after body parts..because of this hardwired biological propensity in sexually stimulating visual images ....regardless of who or what owns them.....

Cognition and inhibition..keeps those stimulations..in check..for most men...

Otherwise the prisons..would be much fuller..than the bursting at the seams that we already have...

From the war on drugs..and etc. etc etc.....

I am almost blind without corrective lenses...

I am so glad that i can go to the dam gym and work out..and all of that ..and be almost blind...

As the 20plus chicks that work out there..could just as easily be almost posing for a centerfold spread in a tame publication like playboy..as they are dressed like they are ready for sex...per highlighting their sexual wares....

Last thing i want to see when doing a serious work out...it's very distracting...and yes while I'm not that much interested in the act.. i am an extremely healthy male...and this does 'effect' me....

But iT IS A FREE COUNTRY AND THIS IS LEGAL..AND I WOULD DIE TO FIGHT FOR THE LIBERTY OF THOSE WOMEN TO DRESS HOWEVER THEY LEGALLY LIKE...

I'LL JUST KEEP CONTINUING NOT TO WEAR MY EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE prescription SUNGLASSES...when working out..there is always potential adaptation..to whatever 'ails' ya....


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03 Jan 2014, 10:42 am

ArrantPariah wrote:
ruveyn wrote:
Lusting after the Young Chicks is as natural as breathing.


Yeah. It does seem rather odd for men to be accusing each other of lusting after young chicks, and denying that we lust after young chicks.

We might as well be accusing each other of breathing.


We live in a 'schizophrenic' society...

A society where 'we' promote sex in our 'children' by allowing them to dress like common street walkers..which again is freedom of choice..

(By the way i support legal prostitution..when a women chooses to do this..of her own volition..too...)

And at the same time will witch hunt a man .. a teacher..or whoever..if he gives a teenage looking female a 'second glance'..


But reputation means everything..when all there is..is words to look at..

I ain't getting anywhere close to that pedophilia crap...


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03 Jan 2014, 11:54 am

salamandaqwerty wrote:
... i honestly believe the modern western culture is obsessed with youth to an incredibly unhealthy extent. and this obsession with justifying everything with pop genetics is ludicrous....There is billions of dollars being made on perpetuating these ridiculous ideals of youth and beauty. you are actually more attracted to these traits because of billion dollar marketing designed specifically to sell you this ideal as a shiny need worthy product.
i find it really sad


Song of Solomon 1 wrote:
...You, my love, excite men
as a mare excites the stallions of Pharaoh's chariots.
Your hair is beautiful upon your cheeks
and falls along your neck like jewels....



Song of Solomon 7 wrote:
What a magnificent young woman you are!
How beautiful are your feet in sandals.
The curve of your thighs
is like the work of an artist.

A bowl is there,
that never runs out of spiced wine.
A sheaf of wheat is there,
surrounded by lilies.

Your breasts are like twin deer,
like two gazelles.

Your neck is like a tower of ivory.
Your eyes are like the pools in the city of Heshbon,
near the gate of that great city.
Your nose is as lovely as the tower of Lebanon
that stands guard at Damascus.

Your head is held high like Mount Carmel.
Your braided hair shines like the finest satin;
its beauty could hold a king captive.

How pretty you are, how beautiful;
how complete the delights of your love.

You are as graceful as a palm tree,
and your breasts are clusters of dates.

I will climb the palm tree
and pick its fruit.
To me your breasts are like bunches of grapes,
your breath like the fragrance of apples,
and your mouth like the finest wine.


Song of Solomon 8 wrote:
The Woman's Brothers:
We have a young sister,
and her breasts are still small.
What will we do for her
when a young man comes courting?

If she is a wall,
we will build her a silver tower.
But if she is a gate,
we will protect her with panels of cedar.

The Woman:
I am a wall,
and my breasts are its towers.
My lover knows that with him
I find contentment and peace.

The Man:
Solomon has a vineyard
in a place called Baal Hamon.
There are farmers who rent it from him;
each one pays a thousand silver coins.

Solomon is welcome to his thousand coins,
and the farmers to two hundred as their share;
I have a vineyard of my own!

Let me hear your voice from the garden, my love;
my companions are waiting to hear you speak.

The Woman:
Come to me, my lover, like a gazelle,
like a young stag on the mountains where spices grow.


The advertising industry clearly didn't invent the male fascination with youthful and beautiful females--they are merely capitalizing upon it.



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