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18 Nov 2013, 3:07 am

Those who think it's OK to kill the disabled are nothing more than psychopaths:

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dis ... e-disabled



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18 Nov 2013, 3:21 am

I could see perhaps euthanizing disabled in a dire apocalyptic situation the load of the men out weigh the few. But a adam and eve situation like that doesn't happen in normal life and even if it did it still would be wrong. Guys that make be sick are the ones that beat up disabled homeless for no reason and they get off scott free, that's freaking ridiculous.



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18 Nov 2013, 3:50 am

I see people all the time advocating the death of the poor and disabled. It makes my heart hurt.



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18 Nov 2013, 3:59 am

I must be living in a bubble if I don't see this often. I have only seen it from a few people which was on a childfree site. But if this is the majority thinking, where do I find these people? I would think lot of them wouldn't express it because it's not PC and how do we know lot think this?

I also wonder if serial killers really did kill the disabled, why haven't I ever heard about it in the media or in books? I only heard about it when I learned about WWII and Hitler and the Nazis did it and they would also fix women who had low IQs or had mental illnesses.


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18 Nov 2013, 4:18 am

At the risk of making myself a pariah, I will say this. I would never advocate outright killing the disabled except under the most dire of circumstances. But I wouldn't really mind if there just weren't any more of them from now on.



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18 Nov 2013, 4:22 am

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18 Nov 2013, 4:33 am

I have had a lot of people on the internet tell me to go and kill myself over the years so that article does not surprise me.

Human kind is becoming human cruel.

I blame ego obsession. So obsessed are humans with their ego and being superior (which I sometimes think they use 'normal' as another word for) they are willing to harm others and even resort to murder as a result.

Sheer arrogance.



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18 Nov 2013, 4:41 am

Troy_Guther wrote:
At the risk of making myself a pariah, I will say this. I would never advocate outright killing the disabled except under the most dire of circumstances. But I wouldn't really mind if there just weren't any more of them from now on.


Have you considered that some people might only be disabled because of the way society has been set up? That society itself actually creates these otherwise non existent disabilities?

Basically if you study evolution, what is a disability in one environment may not be a disability in another.

PN when I say otherwise nonexistent disability I don't mean the physical/neurological or psychological trait in question does not exist, I mean that in a different environment it may not be a disability at all, it may even be beneficial.

Yes there are some characters that are definite disabilities but some are culturally generated because they are characters that are looked down up on by that society...anything society does not want to accept is labelled as a sickness these days.



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18 Nov 2013, 4:46 am

bleh12345 wrote:
I see people all the time advocating the death of the poor and disabled. It makes my heart hurt.


Makes my heart hurt too.



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18 Nov 2013, 5:21 am

bumble wrote:
I have had a lot of people on the internet tell me to go and kill myself over the years so that article does not surprise me.

Human kind is becoming human cruel.

I blame ego obsession. So obsessed are humans with their ego and being superior (which I sometimes think they use 'normal' as another word for) they are willing to harm others and even resort to murder as a result.

Sheer arrogance.


I agree. The more ego-centric you are, the more normal are you considered.

My unwillingness to want to get rid of the disabled is the reason I'm having social trouble!



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18 Nov 2013, 5:31 am

qawer wrote:
I agree. The more ego-centric you are, the more normal are you considered.

This does not chime with me. If anything, more egocentric people are disliked more. People who are selfless are praised, valued and desired.



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18 Nov 2013, 5:43 am

qawer wrote:
I agree. The more ego-centric you are, the more normal are you considered.

This does not chime with me. If anything, more egocentric people are disliked more. People who are selfless are praised, valued and desired.



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18 Nov 2013, 5:53 am

The_Walrus wrote:
qawer wrote:
I agree. The more ego-centric you are, the more normal are you considered.

This does not chime with me. If anything, more egocentric people are disliked more. People who are selfless are praised, valued and desired.


The actual selfless people are people like those on this forum. Hopefully we can agree we are rarely praised, valued nor desired in society.



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18 Nov 2013, 6:28 am

The_Walrus wrote:
qawer wrote:
I agree. The more ego-centric you are, the more normal are you considered.

This does not chime with me. If anything, more egocentric people are disliked more. People who are selfless are praised, valued and desired.


Not true...

I gave up studying a degree to care for family members.
I stood up for someone being bullied and was turned on myself by those bullies
I will help anyone I am able to help in whatever way I am able to help them when I am well enough to do so (I had a number of years of chronic health problems myself during which time people just walked away and left me to struggle by myself).

Yet here I sit alone with no one (my close family are deceased now), no friends, no partner...

I did not do it to earn points as I genuinely cared about people and wanted to see them well and happy...

In return they abused me, punched me, rejected me, kicked me, ridiculed me, raped me and so on...

The world admires the egocentric. The bullies of society. Those who are the cruelest go the furthest. The rest get trampled on by them as they charge through without giving a s**t about anyone but themselves.



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18 Nov 2013, 6:34 am

I think the problem is that those psychopathic views are actively promoted (in politics via the media, who love presenting inflammatory views) and that that can cause some non-psychopathic people to become infected with psychopathy. ...Not that those people will become serial killers, but that they'll support (vote for) institutional psychopathy. I.e. kill social security, etc. Not trying to break Godwin's rule here, but basically what the "good Germans" implicilty ended up supporting. It's not as hard as it ought to be to get people to do that. And, of course, that's a well known political fact (i.e. Karl Rove's revealed notes about deliberately stoking people's anger in order to get their votes).