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white_as_snow
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25 Oct 2017, 4:38 pm

Who are more oppressed?



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25 Oct 2017, 4:50 pm

I don't like this "oppression Olympics" thing. It's pointless and only serves to divide groups of people who should be working together. Gay men and lesbians can both face oppression, sometimes in different ways. Can we leave it at that?



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25 Oct 2017, 5:01 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
Who are more oppressed?


We have to consider colour and number of limbs before making a final decision.



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25 Oct 2017, 6:02 pm

white_as_snow wrote:
Who are more oppressed?


Gay porn or lesbian porn.

Which is more lucrative?



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25 Oct 2017, 6:10 pm

adifferentname wrote:
white_as_snow wrote:
Who are more oppressed?


Gay porn or lesbian porn.

Which is more lucrative?


Gay.



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25 Oct 2017, 6:19 pm

RikMayall wrote:
adifferentname wrote:
white_as_snow wrote:
Who are more oppressed?


Gay porn or lesbian porn.

Which is more lucrative?


Gay.


Certainly not for the actors. Lesbian scenes pay nearly double that of a gay shoot. And according to 10 years of Pornhub data "lesbian" is the number one search term in the US, UK, Canada and Australia.



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25 Oct 2017, 6:35 pm

Pornhub is free.



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25 Oct 2017, 7:01 pm

RikMayall wrote:
Pornhub is free.

Nope. They do have free videos but they also have a subscription service like Netflix. They’re best videos are locked behind that. But besides that like any other website they make money from advertisers. Hat advertising money pays for them to get porn videos besides the armature ones uploaded by couples or women who enjoy the attention or the ones ex’s post up.



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25 Oct 2017, 7:05 pm

sly279 wrote:
RikMayall wrote:
Pornhub is free.

Nope. They do have free videos but they also have a subscription service like Netflix. They’re best videos are locked behind that. But besides that like any other website they make money from advertisers. Hat advertising money pays for them to get porn videos besides the armature ones uploaded by couples or women who enjoy the attention or the ones ex’s post up.


Are the search terms the same for free and paywall porn?



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25 Oct 2017, 9:45 pm

I think lesbians are viewed as less threatening to the general population. And homophobes are all the more discriminatory to gay men because they think that's the best way to hide what they themselves have hidden in their closets.


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25 Oct 2017, 9:48 pm

Kraichgauer wrote:
I think lesbians are viewed as less threatening to the general population. And homophobes are all the more discriminatory to gay men because they think that's the best way to hide what they themselves have hidden in their closets.

What do they search in private though?



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25 Oct 2017, 10:19 pm

Back in the day gay men were more likely to get beaten up thsn lesbian women. Largely for the reasons K said above.

Its a dumb trolling question. But now that Ive fed the troll I throw in one more morsel.

You cant really run an oppression Olympics with a simple sprint like this because it depends on the situation and context.

A straight cisgendered White man might very well loose an American presidential election to a lesbian, Black, Muslim, women, if he is openly atheist. Studies have shown that the American voters are more turned off by atheism than by being the wrong race, or the wrong gender, or wrong religion (other than atheism), or the wrong sexual orientation.



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25 Oct 2017, 10:33 pm

RikMayall wrote:
Kraichgauer wrote:
I think lesbians are viewed as less threatening to the general population. And homophobes are all the more discriminatory to gay men because they think that's the best way to hide what they themselves have hidden in their closets.

What do they search in private though?


Homophobes creep out of their closets when no one's looking, and look at gay porn. Then they have to redouble on their homophobia to convince themselves that they don't have repressed feelings.


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26 Oct 2017, 5:28 am

Interesting how the hate process shifted form "fags" to "homophobes".



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26 Oct 2017, 6:12 am

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Interesting how the hate process shifted form "fags" to "homophobes".


That's because homophobes hate gays because they're different from them. Not much good you can say about homophobes, or any bigots.


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26 Oct 2017, 7:51 am

Kraichgauer wrote:
EzraS wrote:
Interesting how the hate process shifted form "fags" to "homophobes".


That's because homophobes hate gays because they're different from them. Not much good you can say about homophobes, or any bigots.


It seems pretty much like anything/anyone who's not pro gay is a deplorable homophobe. As in you MUST be in full support or you're a total scumbag human parasite.

Edit: i'll expound on that. If someone was asked how they felt about autistic like me and they said "they creep me out", I would be fine with that, it's an honest answer.

It's not okay to bully or discriminate etc anyone. But a person shouldn't have a pejorative label placed on them for how they honestly feel. They shouldn't have to live in fear because of it. It's not a good way to control society. It's the kind of thing that ends up becoming fascist. Which I believe is exactly what some people want, despite the fact they say they're against fascism. Note, I'm certainly not directing that at you Bill, I'm just speaking in general.