different faiths all lead to god?
More to do with the pharoah's law than anything else. I think it occured around the time of 2800 BCE, which would have made it during either Seti 1 or Rameses reign. It's just that people were unable to explain for themselves the whys and wherefores of anything that was happening, so to explain it they said 'God did this'.
Also, don't forget that most of the workers on the pyramids were volunteers, who were gladly working on the tombs for their kings. Sure, if the Egyptians had needed the Palestinians, they would have rounded them all up, but it could have been that they had enough workers, and the slaves they had had become unreliable.
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Karma decides what must happen, and that includes everyone.
Also, don't forget that most of the workers on the pyramids were volunteers, who were gladly working on the tombs for their kings. Sure, if the Egyptians had needed the Palestinians, they would have rounded them all up, but it could have been that they had enough workers, and the slaves they had had become unreliable.
Doesn't answer my question.
And BTW, check your historical terms. There were no "Palestinians" until 135 AD, when the Roman Emperor Hadrian named part of the western portion of what is now called Israel "Philistia", or "Palestine", after the Jews' then-archenemies, the Philistines. Hadrian ordered that portion of land to be named "Palestine" as a hateful insult to the Jews.
And, as an aside, modern so-called "Palestinians" are no relation to those people occupying "Philistia" in 135 AD. The modern appropriation of the name is also meant as both an insult to the Jews and a denial of their history in the land.
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Christianity is different than Judaism only in people's minds -- not in the Bible.
Same goes for 'Israel', there was no state or country by that name until 1948. The area may have been Philistia (hence Philistine) before 135 CE, but it has been known as Palestine up until 1948, and even then it's questionable as to what the proper borders are.
And the reason they want the land is because they had inhabited it for a far greater time than the current Israelis had. It would be like saying that you lot had to give the States back to the Red Indians, or we Aussies having to give our land back to the abos, simple 'cause they were here first. Sure, maybe the current Palestinians haven't done a lot with the land, but to be unsettled just because of some 'promise' that they don't even acknowledge would piss anyone off. If you were in the same boat, wouldn't you be pissed at someone trying to take what you'd strived to make you own? That's how I think the Palestinians must feel. I don't however agree with the terrorist aspect of it, or the continual bombing by Israel to prove a point.
As for answering your question, I feel I did.
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At least I get Monty Python humour. But if I were to quote a few Life Of Brian quotes, like 'he's not the messiah, he's just a very naughty boy', or 'crucifixion? Line on the left, one cross each', or even 'alright, so I am the messiah then. Now f*ck off!' you would be screaming blasphemy and calling for a stoning.
Anyway, the New Testament may not have had any punishments by Christians, but it didn't stop the Inquisitors back in the middle ages from handing out some. Jesus was said to have taught things like humility, love thy neighbour, forgiveness, compassion and turning the other cheek. Pity then there are so many 'Christians' who can't even obey those simple laws. I, on the other hand only have a couple to obey; i) take responsibility for my actions, and ii) do no harm to others as it may be visited back on you, and if you do harm take steps to rectify it. Pretty simple, when you think of it.
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Pagans are people too, not just victims of a religious cleansing program. Universal harmony for all!!
Karma decides what must happen, and that includes everyone.
Not sure if that was directed at me. But... Jesus is just one of the many paths, up to you to choose the one that fits.
"Jesus answered, 'I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me' " (John 14:6).
Was Jesus fibbin'?
Also, He said: "Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it" (Matt 7:13-14).
So, if He's a liar, then He can't be one of the paths to the afterlife. But if he was a moral man, and not a liar, then He is the only way to God and the afterlife.
Amazing. All I said was shift your perspective. You ask if I thought he was fibbin, which is a question and then prove I am with an "also" and a "so". Truely amazing. If that's a gift from God, keep it, I don't want it. Bull s**t logic, wish I could say at it's best, but I've seen way better. Next time, get the real part of what I said in it and not an end statement, ment for someone else and not you.
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how are you being coerced?
"Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"
That's nothing that can't be fixed by sacrificing a few kittens to Beelzebub. MeeeeeeeeOwwwwwwwwwww!! !!
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if they werent i dont know how you could consider them more of the truth than any of the books that were left out
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how are you being coerced?
"Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"
That's nothing that can't be fixed by sacrificing a few kittens to Beelzebub. MeeeeeeeeOwwwwwwwwwww!! !!
Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No." Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killin' done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61."
B. Dylan, Highway 61 Revisited
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if they werent i dont know how you could consider them more of the truth than any of the books that were left out
My wife says there is a debate on if 2 of the 4 were by the same person.
Some think that Luke may have been. The others, the general thought is they were not.
Not in touch with my cousin, he has his PHD in this stuff. But the Wife knows her stuff on this type of thing, I have forgotten an awful lot. Been a while since I was into this study. Very interesting things in it all though.
There were many different reasons for the choices of what was left out and what was included. Some politics had entered the picture, amoung the differnt sects that had already formed. There was debate (very little debate, it boiled down to about one person) about what had stood the test of time, in other words which were actually valid and not a rumor gone popular. I think some of it was out and out censorship, not fit for the morals of the times. Some had been actually been destroyed by then. Some of the "cults" had been hunted down, killed off and their works thought to have been destroyed, The Book of Mary is one, if I'm not mistaken. Has more then a hint of Buddist thought in it. Which was about 400 years? prior then Christ, not sure on dates anymore either. It often isn't given enough credit about how much was known from different areas of the world. People very often think that it wasn't till Marco Polos time that they even had a hint of Eastern thought. This area we're speaking of was a big time melting pot, still is.
As far as if they are as valid, well, I would say that's a personal choice. A little research into when, why and how and by whom the Bible was brought to be, might shed some light for you on this. Emperor Constantine, might be a good place to start for you.
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Welcome God to Murder Inc. Now if you and Abraham will just step into this Black Mariah we can get down to the precinct and sort this out..... Boys, not to tight with those cuffs...
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Karma decides what must happen, and that includes everyone.
What about the incident when Ananias and then his wife Sapphira fell dead (miraculously!) at the words of the apostle Simon Peter? (Acts 5 verse 1 to 10)
Was that violence or not?
Quasimodo
Probably find that all faiths lead away from God.
If theres a God, there is also a Devil.
What better way of stopping would be Lovers of God from worshipping him than by starting up or infultrating all religions in order to actually keep them away from the God they want to worship.
Didnt you read that Satan transforms himself into an angel of light in order to mislead?
Or Jesus ilustration of Satan planting weeds amongst the wheat.
Why do you think religions are resposible for all the blood spilled on the earth?
Sometimes it good to look at the history of religions,
Catholic Church, started by the Sunworshipper Constantine with the purpose of solidifing the fragmenting Roman empire.
Church of England, Henry 8th wanted a divorce,
etc etc
Dont use this as an excuse for not beliveing in God though.
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i think i read somwhere that lucifer and satan or satanael as hes properly called in the apocryphial books are two completley different people working together
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