No Historical proof of Jesus

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http://jdstone.org/cr/files/nohistorica ... jesus.html

the link is interesting.

Pretty weak presumption.
Oh, not about the miracles
and all that BS, but seems
likely as hell that there was
indeed a historical Jesus.

Even is an atheist, I know there is proof that Jesus lived as a real person (even the most religious Jew/Hindu/buddha believes that Jesus was a person). What does come into question though is just how many "Jesus's" there were, as the biblical timeline results in 4 separate people being considered Jesus, and of course his god status (and before anyone says "But Jesus is god's son not god" I consider him to have god status because the Christians I know pray to Jesus daily but rarely pray to god, if they ever do.)

What a load of crap. That's not a real scientific website, just some idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about. Of course there's proof. I was reading a book by Suetonius, a Roman guy, and he mentions the death of Christ.

Interesting, but stupid.

Oh, come on, let her have her fun, like I let you have yours.

Oh come on, is not that bad, isn't it?

I agree.


Are we having fun?

By Suetonius' time though, the fact that there
were substantial number of Christians was
established fact. Still, the site is crap. It claims
WITHIN a century.

But, since the official policy was very anti-christian,
this is not at all surprising. Petty criminals from the
far reaches of the empire are unlikely to be noted.

One VERY interesting point is the fact that Josephus
mentions nothing about it. Tends to indicate that
the message took a long time to take any hold,
EVEN in Iudea. A strong reason to disbelieve that
it was a powerful movement, early on.

If memory serves (and it may not) were not Jospeh and Mary in bethlehem for some form of roman census? Wouldnt that be a good start? Find census, check for marys and josephs.

Also, wouldnt the roman equivalent of a police report be a good place to look?

IC1 Male, beard, long hair, robes, found on corner of high street loitering with intent to heal.

Or something like that. If jesus really did go round irritating hell out of the romans, then he must have been a watched man.

I would not say that there is no historical evidence for the existence of Jesus, but the evidence is certainly very limited (and easily contested). However, there is clearly no historical evidence for Adam, Noah, Abraham, and Moses.

When it comes down to it, people accept the historicity of these persons on the basis of faith, not history.

Cheers,

Mark

Just remember, there probably wont be a lot of historical evidence for any of us, either. WE are the ciphers and hypens of history. You have to do something of note right there and then for it to be really noticed, otherwise all the evidence gets ignored. Becoming important AFTER the fact.. theres no guarantee there will be anything left to hang on to, or anyone around who thought to write about it.

Think on it.. he was a carpenter.. he must have made tables.. but no-one thought to keep their "messiah table" for history.