Is Sunday brunch a sin?
Resting on the Sabbath is a good idea but what is "work"?
Millions of Jews have argued this for thousands of years.
No doubt it was easier when everyone was a merchant or a sheep herder but what about in our modern world?
What if all the doctors, nurses and cooks at a hospital stayed home on the Sabbath?
What if the policemen, firemen, and the men at the electricity generating plant took the day off?
So what is "work"? The Rabbis argue about this. Turning on a light switch? Lighting a cigarette?
How about flushing the toilet?
zer0netgain wrote:
The Sabbath is fulfilled. Church attendance on Sunday is no longer a sin for non-compliance.
HOWEVER, many Christians only get the opportunity to spend time with other believers on Sunday, so having to always work on Sundays hampers your spiritual growth. That can pose a personal and perhaps legal issue.
HOWEVER, many Christians only get the opportunity to spend time with other believers on Sunday, so having to always work on Sundays hampers your spiritual growth. That can pose a personal and perhaps legal issue.
Agreed.
Also, I think it would be cool to still observe the Sabbath. That it is in the 10 Commandments to do so underlines the importance of it.
BUT...
The Sabbath is the Sabbath--the 7th day, not the 1st day. I see "Sunday brunch" as part of a day of work as much as any other work day. I happen to be employed by a church as a staff musician, so going to church IS going to work. For me, it requires a little more preparation than a typical day. Kids normally get breakfast at their daycare, but we typically have a little breakfast early on Sunday even if it's nothing more than oatmeal and toast. I will probably spend an hour studying the Bible (which I do most days, anyway, I just do this sooner than later on Sunday morning), actually SHAVE, and I'll get to church between 9 and 9:30. I have a chance to play over the music for the worship service, rehearse with the other musicians, soundcheck with soloists, etc. We're usually done by 10:15 or 10:30, so I have a short break before I go to the choir room for a run-through of any special choir anthems we might use. I'll start playing, usually just free improvised music, while the choir comes out through the associate pastor's announcements, segue to the first song, and I don't really stop playing until the sermon. About 11:55, whenever I get a good opening at the end of the sermon, I'll start improvising again, segue to the last two songs of the service.
It's a physical and mental drain because of the constant concentration, attention to detail. I've done this long enough that I tend to take a lot of what goes on in a worship service for granted, but when I finally get home, it all catches up with me. I change out of my church clothes, lie down for a minute, and I'm in a coma before lunch!
When I wake up, I look over any music I need to prepare for handbell duo, and then we're off to the church for a 2-hour practice during evening activities. Our church does a "connection" group every Sunday night. The problem we've found is that it's not friendly for young couples, especially young parents, so we never felt very "connected." On the other hand, what we ARE doing in place of it will ultimately be a valuable service to the music ministry and MAYBE expand to more than just a handbell duo to a full handbell choir kind of thing--something that will be active in worship other than just holidays. Playing handbell duets is also a great way to work up a sweat and lose some weight!
It's a lot of WORK, so I challenge anyone to honestly say that it is a sin to work on Sunday. It's the first day of the week! You bet there's work to do.
So, no, I have no problem with working on Sunday as long as it doesn't interfere with worship.
As to whether doctors/hospital staff who work on Sunday and do not worship sin: You know, one "work" that Jesus did was heal the diseased, the demon-possessed, and even those who'd been disabled from birth--and working on the Sabbath was not a problem. Even the Pharisees did not object to "work" on the sabbath in emergency situations. So hospitals are certainly allowed because they are in the business of doing God's work--caring for the sick and injured.
There are at least two good reasons from the Bible to support worshipping on the 1st day. #1 is that creation of the world began on the 1st day of the week. The 7th day is the day of rest, not the 1st. #2 is that Jesus was resurrected on the 1st day, not the 7th day. So for Christians, the 1st day of the week is more significant as a day of worship rather than the 7th because on the 1st day, just like the creation of the world, the work of God's creation of salvation becomes complete. For believers, it's not a bad way to start the week!
Wombat wrote:
Resting on the Sabbath is a good idea but what is "work"?
Millions of Jews have argued this for thousands of years.
No doubt it was easier when everyone was a merchant or a sheep herder but what about in our modern world?
What if all the doctors, nurses and cooks at a hospital stayed home on the Sabbath?
What if the policemen, firemen, and the men at the electricity generating plant took the day off?
Millions of Jews have argued this for thousands of years.
No doubt it was easier when everyone was a merchant or a sheep herder but what about in our modern world?
What if all the doctors, nurses and cooks at a hospital stayed home on the Sabbath?
What if the policemen, firemen, and the men at the electricity generating plant took the day off?
I don't know what is currently the views from the jews and christian sabbatians about the Sabbath, but as I pointed out earlier, an adventist opinion I heard was that a doctor or any other similar job, they could work on the sabbath, but they would not charge their patients.
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So what is "work"? The Rabbis argue about this. Turning on a light switch? Lighting a cigarette?
I believe the jews pretty much don't smoke, so they would not light a cigarrette in any day.
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How about flushing the toilet?
Wait until the next day to poop
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AngelRho wrote:
There are at least two good reasons from the Bible to support worshipping on the 1st day. #1 is that creation of the world began on the 1st day of the week. The 7th day is the day of rest, not the 1st. #2 is that Jesus was resurrected on the 1st day, not the 7th day. So for Christians, the 1st day of the week is more significant as a day of worship rather than the 7th because on the 1st day, just like the creation of the world, the work of God's creation of salvation becomes complete. For believers, it's not a bad way to start the week!
The issue is that in Europe and most Asia, monday is the first day of the week and sunday the seventh.
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greenblue wrote:
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So what is "work"? The Rabbis argue about this. Turning on a light switch? Lighting a cigarette?
I believe the jews pretty much don't smoke, so they would not light a cigarrette in any day.
There's nothing against smoking in Judaism. That's Islam in which smoking and drinking are outlawed. Mormonism too I suppose, but not in Judaism as far as I know, and certainly not based upon the Tanakh, although it's possible some rabbi may have said something against it at sometime or another.
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