America, a Brittish colony

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snake321 is definitely smart.

In that aspect, yes, there are financial ties. Big banking families definitely have interests in both countries, and the old British bankers have a stake in the US economy, and vice versa. Really, I wouldn't be too worried. It's the fact that many developed countries, including the US and UK, are controlled by corporations and the obscenely rich that's the problem.
That the British elites have more control over the US than American elites do, is highly questionable. Many British elites moved there for business purposes, true, and became American elites. The UK was in fact a hostile environment for business in the years after world war II, due to high taxes. In fact, even in the US, big business could not prosper nearly as much as it does now with a 70% top tax rate during the Kennedy-Johnson years. Really, this problem is a result of the Thatcher-Reagan neo-liberalism. Before, the business elites weren't so powerful. Only really the big industrialists and bankers had any sort of influence, but nowhere near as much as say, Rupert Murdoch. With modern technology and economic liberalisation, that's changed greatly.

Regardless of what forgotten 19th century bits of paper you dig out, the fact is that China has more financial influence over the US than Britain has or will ever have. Lots of foreign banks and governments have a stake in the US financial system, from Swiss banks to the government of Saudi Arabia; the British royals aren't even relevant in the grand scheme of things.
The US is such a British colony that they invaded an actual British colony in 1812, they kicked Britain out of Latin America, they forced Britain out of Suez (bringing down the Prime Minister of the day in the process), etc.
Frankly, all these conspiracy theories about omnipotent banks simply reflect a lack of understanding of the basic realities of interest rates, inflation, etc.
There is much wrong with Western culture, but it is less tyrannical than the alternatives.

No matter your opinion on AIPAC, it doesn't explain WHY they, a foreign lobbying company, own all our political representation. now does it?
And please stop calling me anti-semetic. If I'm against the Italian mafia, that doesn't make me anti-Italian. If I'm against Muqtada Al Sadr, it doesn't make me anti-arab, if I'm against the IRA it doesn't make me anti-Irish. If I'm against nazi's, I'm not anti-German. So, I'm not anti-semetic.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5342184251

"it is a very lonely thing to understand truth"

Now, to those who don't believe a NAFTA super hwy is being built, or the NAM:
openly exposed/admitted by a politician RP, and by various news medias. This shows how stupid the masses have been made through your indoctrination.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=V_OAEM4Quvo

Admitting to it:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=uN79iTsvZP0
also quote David Rockefeller "some people accuse me and my family of being part of a global kabal to rule the world. If these are the charges, I stand guilty, and proud of it".

IMO the modern conspiracy theories involving AIPAC are so similar to the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" BS it's disturbing. I don't like how Jewish groups reflexively accuse any critic of Israel an anti-Semite, but based on all the BS conspiracy theories out there concocted by nativist paleoconservatives and left-wing conspiracy nuts I can understand why such groups throw out the label so easily.

AIPAC doesn't "own all our political representation," you are taking your biased opinions as fact. Argument by Assertion Fallacy.

Last time I checked Britain was not a party to NAFTA, and the British royal family are the Windsors, not the Rockefellers. Just another conspiracy nut answering facts with incoherent rants.
Does anyone know of any serious pyschological studies of conspiarcy theorists? It would be nice to check whether my hunches on the matter are right.

So the defense rests? There is no way possible that the same people behind NAFTA are in league with the Windsors on an international political level, working towards the same goal? After you've SEEN all the blatant evidence I've shown? I'm still a "conspiracy nut"? Were German citizens "conspiracy nuts" for calling out Hitler before he took over?
So is the grass purple too? Does 2+2=37? I'm sure if it fits in your "paradigm" your answer is yes..... Not everything is about winning arguments. People who have to always be right will never get it.

Look..... I'm not gonna keep wasting my time arguing an up-hill battle against logic to "play the game" of the sheeple..... Nor do I consider civil or human rights a team sport like the average dumbshit sheep. I tend to think everyone has unalienable rights, that are unquestionable rights. The right to privacy, the right to be left alone, the right to equal consideration, the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of hapiness.
However, to the sheep it's all a "game". Rights and liberties are like poker chips to the dead. Most of the dead have absolutely ZERO appreciation for freedom, because they fear freedom. They fear having to make their own decisions, and they fear having to be responsible. They'll fear any truth outside of their stupid little box, because they don't know what's outside their box, and they don't want to. Shackles and chains are a heavy price to pay for your ignorance.
But I guess you'd rather be cannon fodder than distance yourself from the herd. Pathetic, and heart breaking it is, especially not only to see how apathetic people are, how willing people LIKE YOU are to just roll over and submit.... What's worse is that you sheep will fight to the death to defend your own bondage because it's all you know.

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Maybe I'll right a book about a sheep detective, who throws out or ignores any evidence which don't support the outcome he wants from his cases. You know, "playing the game"..... So he ends up sending the wrong man to die.

Yes, and it's possible that they're all in league with aliens from Mercury - it being possible is not the same as it being true. Given, for example, how much of the British media portrays the royal family, the notion that they control the world (or Britain, for that matter) is laughable - and 'evidence' of Rockefeller stoking his ego by claiming he ruled the world is somehow supposed to show that the Windsors own the US? So yes, you're still a conspiracy nut.
Let's put this into perspective - Britain is economically and militarily tiny compared to the US, and her economy is smaller than Germany's, China's, India's and Japan's. You do not say a word about the historical facts I presented, a silence that speaks volumes.
The Slim family in Mexico, it should be noted, is far richer than the Windsors.

How's this for your answer?


Clip of Gordon Brown discussing the agenda
http://youtube.com/watch?v=kjVfYJ4ALGs

Other useful links
http://youtube.com/watch?v=dhwKURm1_sA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YiHOP2P_NTA

http://youtube.com/watch?v=N4S_s0Nm9lY

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Britain is a major political and economic player, britain is a lot like America's side kick... Actually more like America is Britain's muscle. So it's dumb to think the Windsors have no political stroke beyond England. Hello, British Common Wealth nations?

Also, your not at all trying to deny my evidence that it's happening here, obviously your stumped at finding a way to bypass the truth without looking obvious as hell. The lady who sat in on the UN meeting, who came out exposing them? The UN is more than just US or North America, ya know. Here she is again, listen and watch very closely:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 5342184251

(ps, maybe it would help not to think of me as trying to demonize english people, it's an intricate network and there is no nation, race, religion, gender, etc. that doesn't have a stake in it. Everyone has blood on their hands, I'm not singling any group out).

Erm.. the US is not part of the Commonwealth. The Commonwealth sided with the US against Britain in the Suez crisis, not that I would expect you to know that fact (so much for Britain 'controlling' the Commonweatlh). Again, not a shred of evidence the Windsors control the US, and continued silence on the historical facts I quoted earlier. Britain is a minor world player compared to the US or even to China.

We've been hoping they might strike oil in Brussels so you Yanks will have an excuse to take out the EU parliament with some near-their-sell-by-date cruise missiles. The optimists think ol' bin liner might get around to doing that a bit sooner -- the more patriotic amongst them are sponsoring a course in cartoon and satire at the University of Copenhagen.


I'd wait until we've sorted out the above, old chap. You'll be jolly welcome, then, as long as you've a passport and go back when you're done.