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snake321
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21 Mar 2008, 6:50 pm

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Britain is a major political and economic player, britain is a lot like America's side kick... Actually more like America is Britain's muscle. So it's dumb to think the Windsors have no political stroke beyond England. Hello, British Common Wealth nations?


Erm.. the US is not part of the Commonwealth. The Commonwealth sided with the US against Britain in the Suez crisis, not that I would expect you to know that fact (so much for Britain 'controlling' the Commonweatlh). Again, not a shred of evidence the Windsors control the US, and continued silence on the historical facts I quoted earlier. Britain is a minor world player compared to the US or even to China.


Not a shred of evidence? I just gave 3 or 4 links of evidence that England is involved in it. The politicians and so forth speaking there in those talks, spoke of a New **WORLD** Order, not of a New All-of-the-world-but-england Order.
W/e, it's not worth even arguing with you. Your not willing to accept evidence. As far as the historical s**t goes, Britain has cw nations, this is plainly obvious to anyone with even a sub-standard knowledge of geography and geo-politics. Honduras, various places in Africa, hell Scottland and Ireland are both subject to the Brittish Crown.
It's not even worth arguing with you though, because you keep asking for evidence when your not willing to accept the evidence that I offer you. So no, your not willing to admit this is possible. It's pointless to argue with someone who is ignorant and lacking of common since reasoning abilities.



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21 Mar 2008, 7:00 pm

snake321: You come across as a deluded idiot. The facts don't stand up at all. Most of Ireland has been a republic for over 80 years. Britain really doesn't have the power you think it has but if you want to believe this nonsense then I'm not stopping you.



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21 Mar 2008, 7:22 pm

Whilst I don't believe the notion of a British or Jewish conspiracy, I know that big business and the super-rich hold the real power all too often, and there are indeed elements which desire to manipulate nations to their own interests.


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21 Mar 2008, 7:44 pm

The founding of the Republic of Ireland is not exactly breaking news, but what can you expect from someone that does not appear to know the US is not part of the Commonwealth? Scotland is in Britain, so it kind of makes sense that, if there is a British government, Scotland would be subject to it (breaking news: the northern bit of Britain is subject to British rule!). Incidentally, the current royals are descended from the Scottish monarchs - a Scottish king inherited the English throne.
Being, on paper, subject to the British crown does not mean the Windsors (or Britain) actually run the place - read up about what the Commonwealth did during the Suez crisis.
snake, by evidence I do not mean rhetoric (people have been going on about new world orders since forever), I mean facts. You may not know the difference, but some of us do. If I gave links to the flat earth society, would that prove the world is flat?


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21 Mar 2008, 7:56 pm

Good heavens. What an amazing mishmash of misreadings, abandoned treaties, superseded historical matters, and outright mindless parroting of conspiracy hogwash!

Particularly interesting was the reference to King John (who was of a cadet branch of the Plantagenets, no relation to the Saxe-Gothburgs- er, I mean Windsors, at all) giving England as a fiefdom to the Pope, but no mention of Henry VIII throwing that out when he founded the Anglican Church.

Incidentally, is there some sort of rule that requires conspiracy nuts to refer to anyone who stays in verifiable reality as "sheeple"?

And how much "free-thinking" does it indicate for every last one of them to use the same term?


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22 Mar 2008, 3:34 pm

I skimmed over bits of it...

The impression I got was that the original post contains a lot of overanalysis of obscure quotes and documents to obtain meaning completely contradictory to their real intention.

Also the bottom line is that the declaration of independence clearly states:

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We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.


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22 Mar 2008, 9:59 pm

Arbie wrote:
To any Britainese who want to see their long lost colony returned I will say only this:
Come and get it.


Dude, that might be scarier if the gun in the picture were actually loaded.

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