Whats with the leftwing bent of Wrongplanet?

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That's not true, and you bloody well know it. I, for one, am agnostic, but I'm sick of how people always think it's ok to bash religion about without tolerance for any argument. Again, this goes down to people thinking that all religion is bad, and not tolerating any other viewpoints. Religion is kicked around like turd here. Have some respect, people.

Snake, are you a victim of taxes yet? As other posters suggested, when you own a home and pay taxes on what you earn, your views can really change.

I don't know if I'll ever own a home myself, but I'd be a fool to think I can get away with not paying taxes.

BTW homeowners are all individuals. So are taxpayers.

When religions behave badly that should be pointed out. There are many obvious instances throughout history and in current events when that has taken place. To decry this indication is intolerable.

I haven't really noticed a bent in either direction on here.

True, it is kicked around. I usually dont even come to this part of the forum. I am a Theist, but can respect the views of others. Inflammatory statements about religion from others only shows me more of where they are than myself. People can get downright nasty about these sorts of things. Nobody likes to get ridiculed over what they believe and shunned for what they dont.

People are misusing the word 'religion' to the point where it has ugly connotations anyways. I don't find it difficult to believe in God, but then, believing in God should have a certain level of responsibility that goes along with said belief. Beliefs like this should not be used to develop of sense of superiority to others, nor should it be used to lord over someone and oppress them. ugh, it makes my skin crawl thinking about it.

I wouldn't be the one to tell you that religions always behave well.

re: op

I'm guessing it has something to do with the gullibility factor that affects aspies.

Yet again, double standards. Religion can be a force for "good" as well as "evil", just as atheism can, as I said before. People use both theist and atheist ideologies to justify malicious acts. Communism and nazism are prime examples of that, just as selfish economic neo-liberalism is. So, non-theists can't say that religion is the root of all the problems in the world, and vice-versa. Each case should be treated individually and neutrally. However, it's hard to see people lightening up on here, given the climate.

Cool down. Its obvious that many many good people are involved in religion. And many good people are not at all religious. In many social situations it was religious organizations that provided the framework for good people to work together to do great things. But it should be understood that it was not religion that made these people good but that these people made religion good by practicing those religious principles that exemplified their best qualities. You yourself stated clearly that religion can be a force for both good or evil and by that it's obvious that religion alone is merely the medium for the actions and motives of its adherents. All that I am saying is that nastiness cannot be justified on purely religious grounds and when religion exhibits its worst actions it is clearly a candidate for criticism. I am not totally familiar with all the tenets of all religious works but those that I know are a mishmash of all sorts of proclamations that can be interpreted in many different ways. What makes them dangerous is that extremists demand that they all be followed mindlessly and without careful examination and all I require is that they be subject to good sense and basic social decency. If I find belief in the supernatural to be counter to perceived nature and much of what religious people accept without either knowing much about the forces and operations of the universe or the history of the origins of their beliefs then it must be accepted that I have a valid point of view and I should be free to say so.

Thank you, Anubis.

Though I go off on a rant now and then, I like to think I'm a voice of reason on WP. It's nice to know I'm alone here.

Im sorry but I still think religion is a fantasy.

You cant just tell me that its real because you say its real. I need proof. The fact that religion makes you feel good inside is great, Im so damn glad for you, but understand that it isnt possible for some people to walk out on that limb and embrace the intangible. (Did you know that I can fly? Yep I can fly. Im not going to do it right now because I enjoy being "grounded", but I can do it. You believe me right?)

I cant help but view the different religions of the world as the catalysts which have brought about the single greatest degree of hate and mistrust between human beings in the history of the planet.

Whats so great about that?

and having said that I should also say that I think the 10
commandments are good "guidelines" to live ones life by.

It doesnt mean that God is real or that Jesus was his son
or any of that mystical fluff.

They are not laws written in stone.
just good guidelines

The 10 Laws of Moses, aka the Ten Commandment actually were written in stone! On stone tablets, man! It's fine to say you do not believe, but please don't belittle others who do believe. Religious belief takes courage; doing what you are doing takes no courage. This does not make for a display of one's integrity. Insulting the beliefs of others and mocking them tells me you are a Redneck Aspie.

proof?



I didnt



Wouldnt it take more courage to walk
alone through life without ever knowing
the love or guidence of a higher power
believing when you die, thats it?



Rednecks do this? I think you may
have "over-classified" the ignorant.

If America is to be saved from the ongoing rape
by its elite and the parasitic infestation of their new
slaves.. Bible thumping Rednecks will lead the charge.
Whether a hereafter exists or not, I would be only too
proud to join their ranks and lay down my life for my
country in the first wave.

Did you mean "not" alone? Or are you being sarcastic in some warped way? <_< I hope that I sound reasonable enough.

Of course you're free to say that, Sand. Really, religion doesn't come down just to reason. The beauty of it is, that you can be the most "rational", intelligent scientist, and still have belief and faith in some form of "God". Take Einstein, for example, or Freeman Dyson.
Religious extremists tend to justify killing and oppression, and force their views upon others, but that's the same for all those who do not tolerate other viewpoints and different ways of life to their own.

Religions which condemn certain acts which can be considered decadent, well, I understand their concerns to some extent, though I think that the law should be secular, the individual should be free to life their life however they want, to a great extent, and people should be allowed to believe and speak freely, with exceptions for malicious hate speech, naturally.