My primary three abortion arguments.

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I apologize to post another thread on abortion as I know there are two or three already but I'd like to express some thoughts that may not already be covered.

What about the right to not exist? - If something has the right to live, it should also be given the right to not live. The primary thing these pro-life people say is "What about the rights of the fetus?". How can you give something rights when it can't even use them? It doesn't have a conscience or any way to communicate with you, how do you know how it wants to use it's rights? They're not giving the fetus rights by assuming the fetus wants to live and forcing it to do so. What if that fetus blows it's head off with a shotgun 23 years after it's birth? What if it's one of the many people that just wishes it was never born? What if it has an illness that makes it miserable, such as severe depression? Some people would prefer not to live, why don't we consider this? In all honesty I'm not suicidal myself but if I had a choice I wouldn't have been born, and that's the truth.

The population. - Looking at things rawly, there's seven billion people in the world. We're not running short, and we certainly do not need to be forcing pregnant women to keep their fetuses. We don't need or want them, and if they don't want them, who's saying they should be in our world? Would you want to grow up knowing you're an unwanted accident? And another thing is many children who are born are then put straight into an orphanage. We have too many homeless children out there, there's absolutely no need to contribute to that.

What about the woman's rights? - As with anyone, a woman should have the right to control what goes on in her body. Of course arguable we already lack rights in many countries of what we can or cannot put in our bodies, (drugs being the best example) but that isn't the point. It effects the woman's overall health and she should be able to control her health above all in a positive way. Physically, yes the fetus is living, but the fetus lives as your pet or any animal does, perhaps even less functioning of course. It's life isn't as important as the woman's, people actually care about her, have memories of her, etc. When you have a miscarriage, where's the funeral? There's no memories, experiences, etc. to share with the fetus as it hasn't started it's humanhood yet.

I'd like to be refuted so please do so and I'll reply.

First of all, let me say that I am pro-choice- the era before abortion was legalized should never be allowed to be legislated back into existence.
But I question what you call the ''right not to exist''- if there is such a ''right''. Even a child under the age of majority, though there might come a moment when he tantrums, ''I wish I were dead!'', doesn't have the maturity to make life-changing decisions for himself like whether to get married or join the Army, let alone to end his life.
It's a pretty sad outlook when you assume that any one of us would have been better off never having been born. And you certainly can't make that decision for others. Abortion is a woman's right, but it should only be a last resort- and every woman should have access to, and education about, safe, effective birth control, as well as her right to say no.

How do you know that the person you're eliminating would prefer not to be alive twenty or so years later? Say they knew about Asperger's before little Baby Einstein was born. Could his parents have predicted whether he'd be better off never existing, or if he'd ever be able to contribute anything to society? What about Stephen Hawking? He doesn't strike me as someone who spends much time feeling sorry for himself.

Stephen Hawking has a huge mind to walk in though

btw, I believe he is neurotypical, js

On whether the fetus ''wants'' to live- most life forms have a survival instinct. An insect will struggle to get away if it senses a threat. Past a certain stage of development, a fetus starts aquiring basic instincts- it will suck its thumb in utero- so it most probably has a survival instinct also.
I don't mean to imply that it is the same as a baby that's been born. And an actual human (the pregnant woman) has the right to preserve her life, health and sanity that (I believe) take precedence over a potential human- a fetus which has not reached the stage where it would be viable outside the womb.

For me as someone who is pro-choice, I do not see abortion as a method of contraception or keeping the population in the world manageable. Contraception should be available to all worldwide( I realize it isn't yet because of cultural mores), but that said, how do we know that a woman using contraception for the first few years of her marriage or who starts to use it in high school or college, isn't giving up the chance to have a baby who could be the next greatest leader the world has ever seen? The fact is, nobody knows, but women can't go around having a gazillion babies until that one in a million savior pops out. It's not practical, it's not healthy to have babies every year the way women used to in the old days. So for the most part, contraception is the healthiest, most practical way to go, and hope that the leader, the healer, the inventor of a cure for cancer will be on their way regardless. That said, abortion should be legal so that it is a safe alternative, but it should be a rare alternative also because it would be a terrible choice to have to make. Much better for our future if men and women became educated and took steps to be on contraception before sex. But that's a toughy when the subjects are 13-14. There's a girl in the news yesterday, 14 years old, Phoenix MIddle School, she dumps her baby in a trash can. Healthy baby boy. Some teacher heard it screaming and picked it out of the trash. Education is the only way to combat these horror stories and our rampant population growth that is going to suck the life out of the planet and, ultimately, education will save the life of children, and the future of our planet. Without it, we're lost. Abortions are not the answer, but they should be allowed as a safe alternative. Education can make them rare and by necessity only.

Abortion as a mean to escape responsibility is wrong, anyone who uses abortion for this reason is not mentally mature enough to be having sex as they are not mentally mature enough to handle the responsibilities of a child - it doesn't mater if the aim of their sexual activities was pleasure and not child birth. If your not mature enough to understand that sex is primarily for reproduction and are not capable of handling the consequences of your actions you shouldn't be having sex.

Im not saying there's anything wrong with having sex for pleasure, use precautions like contraceptions. But if those fail, then that's too bad. you knew their would be that risk, accept it and take on your responsibility.

Apart from that abortion is ok, unfortunate but ok.