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30 Aug 2011, 12:37 am

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Apparently, the baby had something wrong with him, & his mom never accepted him with the disabilities. Sad for the baby. He was taken off life support a few days ago, & died from his injuries.


And this is why I am for parents leaving their partners and child when they can't handle it being special needs and why I am am for giving the baby up for adoption because of special needs. It drives some parents into insanity and then kill their child.


I always find it interesting now that when a parent is sad or stressed out with their baby for whatever reason, it gets blamed on Post Partum depression. Doctors will say that or other women.


League Girl, I do agree that it's not a good idea for anyone to leave a mom with these symptoms home alone with the child(ren) in question. The only thing is there's no guarantee that an adopted child will not be abused for any reason. This is not the thread for this discussion, btw. Just saying...adoption does not necessarily prevent abuse as horrible as that sounds. There are plenty of examples: "Mommy Dearest," & the death of a young adopted girl in NYC some 15 or so years ago. I experienced this myself being adopted by an abusive couple.



Don't forget "A Child Lost Forever" a story about Dennis Jergins who was forced to be given up for adoption because his mother was only 17 when she had him and a ward of the state so she wasn't allowed to keep him. Skip forward 19 years later, she decides to look for him and it turns out he is dead because he was given to a couple and the mother was abusive towards him and she killed him from her abuse.

In real life it was actually 21 years later after the death of him and it happened in 1965 than in 1976. But Lois Jergins was abusive towards him and towards other kids she had adopted and they all had died except for one of them because he was so afraid of her, he never misbehaved or tested any boundaries so he was a "good boy" and never faced her abuse. Then in the 1970's she adopted four more boys who were brothers but they away, including Robert, the "good boy."



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30 Aug 2011, 4:26 am

That story is irrelevant to the news story in the first post because that couple and baby should have never been here in the first place. They should have been Mexico's problem. All 3 of them should have been placed on an immigration hold at the hospital and should have been picked up at the parking lot and put on the next border patrol van heading south when she was discharged.


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30 Aug 2011, 11:42 am

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That story is irrelevant to the news story in the first post because that couple and baby should have never been here in the first place. They should have been Mexico's problem. All 3 of them should have been placed on an immigration hold at the hospital and should have been picked up at the parking lot and put on the next border patrol van heading south when she was discharged.


("ze" is a gender neutral noun used instead of using "it" I don't know the gender of the murdered infant)

Agreed but I am guessing the baby was a US citizen because ze was born and lived in the United States before ze's untimely death. Therefore, where they get charged for the crime is not so black/white.



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30 Aug 2011, 11:58 am

tomboy4good wrote:
Apparently, the baby had something wrong with him, & his mom never accepted him with the disabilities. Sad for the baby. He was taken off life support a few days ago, & died from his injuries.
A sad end to a short life, thanks for the update. :cry:



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14 Sep 2011, 5:17 pm

Dear League Girl, I believe the case you refer to is the one the book 'A Death In White Bear Lake' is about. It was made into an excellent 2-part mini-series starring BeverleyD'Angelo. The adoptive mother terrified numerous people, not just her kids, for years, even threatened to burn 1 woman's house down. More than 1adopted child had died in her care before she got little Dennis. With all of this, how did she manage to get these kids, why was the abuse not seen or reported, how was Dennis death labeled as natural (he was dug up and re-autopsied(did I just make up a word?) after the birth mother went looking for him, THEN it was found he'd died from a massive blow to the head)? The reason was, her husband was the police chief. He protected her, never believed a word against her, they were BOTH scary people. And children died. Oh, by the way, I live in California, so the current case is well-publicized. Though she will undoubtedly try for an insanity defense,there is one little problem, to me, at least. After she removed his helmet, dropped him 4 stories, she walked into the facility and had her parking validated. Not sure how this fits in with 'she had no idea what she was doing). Sylkat 8O



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14 Sep 2011, 5:30 pm

Sylkat wrote:
Dear League Girl, I believe the case you refer to is the one the book 'A Death In White Bear Lake' is about. It was made into an excellent 2-part mini-series starring BeverleyD'Angelo. The adoptive mother terrified numerous people, not just her kids, for years, even threatened to burn 1 woman's house down. More than 1adopted child had died in her care before she got little Dennis. With all of this, how did she manage to get these kids, why was the abuse not seen or reported, how was Dennis death labeled as natural (he was dug up and re-autopsied(did I just make up a word?) after the birth mother went looking for him, THEN it was found he'd died from a massive blow to the head)? The reason was, her husband was the police chief. He protected her, never believed a word against her, they were BOTH scary people. And children died. Oh, by the way, I live in California, so the current case is well-publicized. Though she will undoubtedly try for an insanity defense,there is one little problem, to me, at least. After she removed his helmet, dropped him 4 stories, she walked into the facility and had her parking validated. Not sure how this fits in with 'she had no idea what she was doing). Sylkat 8O


Children can also cover their abusive parents' tracks by being brainwashed. I know I never eluded to the fact that there were things going on at home & at their friends' house that should not have been. I kept my mouth shut, even after my dad threatened to kill me in front of witnesses, even after my adoptive mother came at me with a long bladed kitchen knife poised over her head to stab me. I have no doubt that she intended to harm me as she had a crazed look on her face. It was only when I cried out that she left the room. She also never apologized for her behavior. Kids who are brought up to believe that "as scary as it is here, it's even worse out there" will keep their mouths shut. It's also why Jaycee Dugard said nothing to anyone about being kept in captivity. Sad fact but true. Parents can use fear as a major control tactic.

Hopefully this woman will never get out of prison. If she is released, she needs to be sterilized so she cannot bring another child into this world to abuse. Unfortunately, this seems to be a horribly common trend & it appears it's only going to get worse.


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