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OliveOilMom
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As a native of new orleans... I beg to differ...
Bless his heart, he just don't know, does he?
If referring to me, I have been all over the united states... and the world... I have enjoyed most of the south... The only places I had issues were west virginia and tennessee
No, I was saying it to you about the one who called it hell on earth. You are from NOLA, so you understand how it is down here. I'm from Bama, so I do too. Other than you possibly being an LSU fan, I got no problem with you. I also figured you would know what I meant when I said "bless his heart".
Where in NO do you live? I've got a cousin that used to live there, but they moved down to Slidell with the rest of the cousins. Slidell is the only place I've got kin in La, but oddly enough some of them moved out of there and up to Marianna.
Also, being from NOLA, do you get a sense that Shepherd Smith has Creole in him? My mother swears he's got Creole blood.
From one Southerner to another,
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Where in NO do you live? I've got a cousin that used to live there, but they moved down to Slidell with the rest of the cousins. Slidell is the only place I've got kin in La, but oddly enough some of them moved out of there and up to Marianna.
Also, being from NOLA, do you get a sense that Shepherd Smith has Creole in him? My mother swears he's got Creole blood.
From one Southerner to another,
That is why I was asking... I know the code...lol... and if hell on earth were here... we wouldn't have a whole word for it... Lagniappe...
I am actually in Arabi... It's a small town sandwiched between chalmette and new orleans with new orleans east on one side... Slidell is 20 minutes from here... and I am still only 15 from the quarter...
On the subject of LSU... *wink* at least I don't come from a place that your fans think that teabagging someone in a local restaurant is acceptable behavior... lol... (Meant in good humor)...
I actually blogged on the Alabama Tea-bagger http://wayoutonthecorner.blogspot.com/2 ... balls.html
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OliveOilMom
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Where in NO do you live? I've got a cousin that used to live there, but they moved down to Slidell with the rest of the cousins. Slidell is the only place I've got kin in La, but oddly enough some of them moved out of there and up to Marianna.
Also, being from NOLA, do you get a sense that Shepherd Smith has Creole in him? My mother swears he's got Creole blood.
From one Southerner to another,
That is why I was asking... I know the code...lol... and if hell on earth were here... we wouldn't have a whole word for it... Lagniappe...
I am actually in Arabi... It's a small town sandwiched between chalmette and new orleans with new orleans east on one side... Slidell is 20 minutes from here... and I am still only 15 from the quarter...
On the subject of LSU... *wink* at least I don't come from a place that your fans think that teabagging someone in a local restaurant is acceptable behavior... lol... (Meant in good humor)...
I actually blogged on the Alabama Tea-bagger http://wayoutonthecorner.blogspot.com/2 ... balls.html
I know, right? I couldn't believe that. We go way, way WAY too far with football. I know folks that have been to jail after games and more than one told me that while they were in there for public drunk, there were also boys in there for shooting people over the games! And that Toomers Corner business! That's just going too damn far. I have a cousin on my husbands side who was in a mixed marriage. She want to Auburn, he went to the University. Both were rabid fans and she tried to make him convert and refused to allow anything Tide in the house, and even wouldn't let him put up his Daniel Moore pictures and he had an original The Kick!! He became whooped and for a long time he put up with it. Until she had the baby. She wanted to bring the baby home from the hospital in an Auburn outfit!! ! And the baby was a boy too on top of that and Glenn had visions of his son out there on the field for Auburn and he just couldn't take it. When she wouldn't back down, he divorced her.
The presiding judge went to the University too. She didn't get s**t in the divorce.
The games that my husband and his friends watch at our house get completely out of hand. I mean completely! We are about 45 minutes from the University and everybody here is a By God Bama Fan!! !! !! You're as likely to see a Bama fan flag flying on the many flagpoles people have from their house as you are to see an American flag or a Rebel flag. I cook all day for them damn boys to come to see the games, or all night the night before. About 6 of them (after they finish off the first bottle of whiskey it seems like they double in size and it's 12 of them there) get there and they watch the games. They all bring wives or dates. Some of the wives and dates watch with the men. My daughter watches with her fiance (they are both Auburn fans but they pull for us except when it's the Iron Bowl and they don't watch that one here - that's the only game that mixed company is not allowed at) Those boys get up to some s**t after the game, I tell you what. Season before last they burned a bunch of LSU memorabilla out in the street. My husband and his friends have 1) ran around the street hollering, in a driving rainstorm carrying this huge tide flag on a flag pole then planted it in the font yard Iwo Jima style and had pics taken of that. They made the local paper. 2) climbed naked on the roof and set off fireworks and one boy passed out up there, but they just left him.
3) punched holes in the wall 4) got dog bit by my wolf hybrids who don't bite people but they got upset that the boys were tackeling each other in the den. etc, etc, etc. You know the drill. Theres usually always some drunk good ole boy out in my front yard on his hands and knees throwing up after a ball game.
We do just go too far. One of my neighbors named his daughter "Bama" Her middle name is "Tide". One of our dogs name is Saban. When Gene Stallings retired to be with his son, my husband wrote him a letter saying that he would be sad to see him go, but he respects him that he's putting his son first. Gene wrote back and my husband had that framed and hung it on the wall above a personal letter from Clinton that my oldest son had gotten for this award.
Then again, it was only Clinton.
You ever go to Slidell? I won't say their last names but my cousins are Wendell and Joel and they are brothers and they own a contracting business there. Joel is married to an Italian lady who pretends to be an Indian and wears braids and beads and all that. She's crazy and I don't like her at all.
You never did say what you thought about my mother's hypothesis about Shepherd Smith. I thought he was from Mississippi, but I guess you can be from Mississippi and still have Creole blood. Now that I think about it, he does look Creole doesn't he?
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I don't go often... and I don't know a Joel or Wendell...
And I don't know who Shepard Smith is... so I canna answer that.
In New Orleans, it's all about the Saints... Right now; the fans are pushing for investigation of ALL bounty programs through the NFL... It just bugs me that a player kills a man and is suspended for less time than our guys.
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OliveOilMom
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And I don't know who Shepard Smith is... so I canna answer that.
In New Orleans, it's all about the Saints... Right now; the fans are pushing for investigation of ALL bounty programs through the NFL... It just bugs me that a player kills a man and is suspended for less time than our guys.
Shepherd Smith is a commentator on Fox News. He's got his own show from 2-4 in the afternoons. My mother is a huge fan. Fox News and cooking shows are all she watches. I wouldn't know who he was either if she wasn't on about him all the time.
Google his picture. She says she can see the Creole blood in his face.
One thing I do have to give ya'll respect for is how ya'll can have a successful SEC team and a successful NFL team! There isn't another Southern state that has a successful NFL team is there? (Florida doesn't count). They tried to start an NFL team here so many times, but nobody cared and some people actually protested it. NFL is important to some people here, but nowhere near as important as college ball. Hell, high school ball is important here, we have a special after the news every Friday night to highlight the players who may go on to play college ball. Do folks take the Saints as seriously as they do the college teams?
I always wanted to come to NOLA for the Sugar Bowl. I've heard all sorts of stories from people who have. One lady I know and her husband came for it years and years ago and he was still so drunk the next day that she left him in the hotel room and drove back home by herself lol!
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What OliveOilMom has been describing is my no means restricted to the Deep South. The U.S.A. as a whole has become Piss Test Nation. It's become an accepted part of life. Refusal to submit, depending on the circumstances, means jail, fines, police scrutiny, expulsion, from school, poverty, denial of opportunity, or career suicide. It doesn't really matter what part of the country one lives in.
For one it should not even be illegal to use drugs, especially when alcohol and cigarettes and caffeine are all legal...what is wrong with using drugs in its self? and what is wrong with not wanting people to have access to your private information.
I mean you really think people should just accept this crap..and give their passwards to employers? I mean lets think of what this means, not only can they see what you put there for people to see but they can see your private messages. I don't know about anyone else but I don't want my employer reading a private conversation between me and a trusted friend or family member for instance. Nor would my friends and family members appreciate my employer being able to see what private messeges they send me.
My point precisely. Please understand that I'm in agreement with you, but it's precisely the same logic at work in both cases. And no, I don't think that we should just accept this crap; otherwise it's only going to get worse.
In my opinion, it goes even deeper than an employer not wanting its employes to make "bad" personal choices. It goes to the heart of the relationship between employer & employee. We're fast moving back toward what things were like in the 19th century, before unions & worker protections & the like - when the power of employer over employee was absolute. Those who declare the War on Drugs a "failure" are missing the point. It HAS failed in that we're never going to rid our society of illegal drugs or addiction. Even the most ardent drug warrior would concede this. But consider instead that the goals of the War on Drugs are to diminish our expectations of liberty & privacy, to enhance police power & prerogatives, & to reassert the authority of employer over employee, & from this angle it has been a smashing success.
Well of course that is what its about, its not about drugs actually being 'bad' or anything, its all about power. And the more I look into it the more that seems obvious.
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Well heroin and marijuana are two pretty different drugs...but I think unless someones drug use interferes with their work ability its none of the employers business. I mean nothing wrong with a no drugs at work policy, but testing people so that they can't make a personal choice in their own home is taking it too far.
Also I would agree having a herion addict working with money might not be the best idea, but I also think they should have access to help without a bunch of stigma, I mean considering drug use/addiction is treated as crime obviously if someone does become addicted to something they are going to be less likely to seek help. I just totally disagree with the way drugs and people who use them(other then the 'government approved' ones) are treated in this society.
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Road checks are legal dude, always have been. Arguing against them is a waste of time. Your car won't be searched unless your registration/license plate/inspection (if your state inspects vehicles) is out of date or reported as stolen. If you don't want to be frisked for no reason, you're within your rights to decline it and if they search you anyway, it's an illegal search and no charges can be brought against you.
Yes fear of insurance companies, one of the biggest scams in the U.S....I mean really you pay insurance companies so when something happens they can find an excuse not to do their job so your essentially paying them to say 'sorry, because of this, this and this we actually don't have to cover this. That brings it back to being about power for the most part.
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Yes and I belive it is all poppy seeds....the opium poppies just have more opium then other types, but all of them have opium. If you want opium free seeds don't get the ones that look like they are covered in dust, get the black shiny ones that have been cleaned
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Well heroin and marijuana are two pretty different drugs...but I think unless someones drug use interferes with their work ability its none of the employers business. I mean nothing wrong with a no drugs at work policy, but testing people so that they can't make a personal choice in their own home is taking it too far.
Also I would agree having a herion addict working with money might not be the best idea, but I also think they should have access to help without a bunch of stigma, I mean considering drug use/addiction is treated as crime obviously if someone does become addicted to something they are going to be less likely to seek help. I just totally disagree with the way drugs and people who use them(other then the 'government approved' ones) are treated in this society.
Have you ever ran a business, or even paid any amount of attention to the running of one while at a job? Even being stoned can be a big problem with a lot of jobs (especially around money). Stigma be damned, you can't expect a business to take risks just because you don't think it's a big deal.
It sucks, but it's life.
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Road checks are legal dude, always have been. Arguing against them is a waste of time. Your car won't be searched unless your registration/license plate/inspection (if your state inspects vehicles) is out of date or reported as stolen. If you don't want to be frisked for no reason, you're within your rights to decline it and if they search you anyway, it's an illegal search and no charges can be brought against you.
Yes fear of insurance companies, one of the biggest scams in the U.S....I mean really you pay insurance companies so when something happens they can find an excuse not to do their job so your essentially paying them to say 'sorry, because of this, this and this we actually don't have to cover this. That brings it back to being about power for the most part.
*chuckles*
Do you know how insurance companies work? If you can prove you did all that you can be reasonably expected to do to weed out obvious problems (like keeping drug addicts around money) then they will pay. Without those insurance companies, your life would be much more complicated.
Don't be so fast to demonize those companies until you understand how they operate, and why they are needed.
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Well heroin and marijuana are two pretty different drugs...but I think unless someones drug use interferes with their work ability its none of the employers business. I mean nothing wrong with a no drugs at work policy, but testing people so that they can't make a personal choice in their own home is taking it too far.
Also I would agree having a herion addict working with money might not be the best idea, but I also think they should have access to help without a bunch of stigma, I mean considering drug use/addiction is treated as crime obviously if someone does become addicted to something they are going to be less likely to seek help. I just totally disagree with the way drugs and people who use them(other then the 'government approved' ones) are treated in this society.
Have you ever ran a business, or even paid any amount of attention to the running of one while at a job? Even being stoned can be a big problem with a lot of jobs (especially around money). Stigma be damned, you can't expect a business to take risks just because you don't think it's a big deal.
It sucks, but it's life.
Did I not say I think its fine for places of employment to have a no drugs on the job allowed policy....I see no issue with that, I see an issue with drug tests, why drug test someone if they are preforming all their work duties well and not putting themselves or anyone else at risk? Not to mention cannabis can be tested for 30 days after it's used, so how does a positive marijuana result even prove someones high at work and doesn't just smoke on the weekends for instance?
Also I was saying the stigma does not help with people who do develop addiction problems with getting help for it.....Also don't believe I said anywhere at all that people should be getting drunk or high at work. Maybe try re-reading my post so you'll see the points I actually made not the illogical arguments you put in my mouth.
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Road checks are legal dude, always have been. Arguing against them is a waste of time. Your car won't be searched unless your registration/license plate/inspection (if your state inspects vehicles) is out of date or reported as stolen. If you don't want to be frisked for no reason, you're within your rights to decline it and if they search you anyway, it's an illegal search and no charges can be brought against you.
Yes fear of insurance companies, one of the biggest scams in the U.S....I mean really you pay insurance companies so when something happens they can find an excuse not to do their job so your essentially paying them to say 'sorry, because of this, this and this we actually don't have to cover this. That brings it back to being about power for the most part.
*chuckles*
Do you know how insurance companies work? If you can prove you did all that you can be reasonably expected to do to weed out obvious problems (like keeping drug addicts around money) then they will pay. Without those insurance companies, your life would be much more complicated.
Don't be so fast to demonize those companies until you understand how they operate, and why they are needed.
I have a vauge idea, and what I've heard of peoples personal experiences.....and don't get me started on health insurance specifically. Also how do drug tests ensure 'drug addicts' aren't around money. Especially since mariujuana for instance will show up positive if you've used it in the past 30 days....how does that prove whether someone has used cannabis in the past week even let alone if they are addicted to it in any sense? Its certainly more about power then trying to keep the helpless money away from addicts.
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Well heroin and marijuana are two pretty different drugs...but I think unless someones drug use interferes with their work ability its none of the employers business. I mean nothing wrong with a no drugs at work policy, but testing people so that they can't make a personal choice in their own home is taking it too far.
Also I would agree having a herion addict working with money might not be the best idea, but I also think they should have access to help without a bunch of stigma, I mean considering drug use/addiction is treated as crime obviously if someone does become addicted to something they are going to be less likely to seek help. I just totally disagree with the way drugs and people who use them(other then the 'government approved' ones) are treated in this society.
Have you ever ran a business, or even paid any amount of attention to the running of one while at a job? Even being stoned can be a big problem with a lot of jobs (especially around money). Stigma be damned, you can't expect a business to take risks just because you don't think it's a big deal.
It sucks, but it's life.
Did I not say I think its fine for places of employment to have a no drugs on the job allowed policy....I see no issue with that, I see an issue with drug tests, why drug test someone if they are preforming all their work duties well and not putting themselves or anyone else at risk? Not to mention cannabis can be tested for 30 days after it's used, so how does a positive marijuana result even prove someones high at work and doesn't just smoke on the weekends for instance?
Also I was saying the stigma does not help with people who do develop addiction problems with getting help for it.....Also don't believe I said anywhere at all that people should be getting drunk or high at work. Maybe try re-reading my post so you'll see the points I actually made not the illogical arguments you put in my mouth.
And how exactly do you intend to make sure someone isn't messed up at work without testing? If you guess and guess wrong, that's wrongful dismissal and you get sued. If you guess right and have no proof, they can *still* sue you for wrongful dismissal.
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