greenland ice sheet melted 97 percent in 4 days
During the summer, ice melts over the surface. This is shocking news.
Climate reports keep saying that the heat and drought are as bad as the 50s, and almost as bad as the 30s.
While Europe had their little ice age, 1100 to 1300, 1500, 1800 according to whom, the Southwest had a long and unbroken drought.
Anazasi and Casa Grande pottery kilns are blamed.
Recent records, the last 300 years, show sea level rising a foot every hundred years, before Al Gore. Over a longer term, 15,000 years, it has risen 450 foot. 30 foot per thousand years, three times faster than our current warming disaster.
Most of that happened from 15,000 to 10,000 years ago, and then it has been constant. In that time it has risen 100 foot, due to children throwing rocks in the ocean.
Sea level is rising at the same rate as the last 10,000 years, it is time to panic, for in a thousand years, it will be ten foot higher. What about my beach house?
There is enough ice for another 2100 years, so map 21' above sea level, build a beach house, and wait.
The time to panic is when it starts falling, for last time, it fell 22 1/2 foot per hundred years.
What ever happens, the Hundred Trillion people on the planet will deal with it. That tide should be reached in a few hundred years.
jojobean
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Is it true that the man-made climate change is the biggest hoax in history for the purpose of selling eco-products and taxing carbon footprints?
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I am glad you asked that, the answer is in my book, "Humans, There is One Born Every Second."
The largest climate changes on record, took thousands of years, weather covers things like the last 500 to 1,000 years.
In 807 the Black Sea and the Nile froze. In 900 the Vikings came south because it became too cold for their crops to ripen, in areas that had produced grapes, and sold wine to the Romans. It got colder from 1100 to 1300.
It did lead to the Black Death, and Crusades.
Europe warmed up around 1500 and became over populated.
As they liked over eating, staying drunk, and sex, and few died, they exported people for hundreds of years. After that ran down there were Religious wars.
In America, 1815 is called, The Year without summer. Killing frosts in June, July, August, then more winter.
Since then it has been too Hot, Cold, Wet, or Dry ever since.
Few periods mention the weather, as it was generally rotten. Records start a hundred years ago, and the 30s stand out for drought, wind, Dust Bowls, starvation, tornados, which reversed in time for WWII.
It could be blamed on mule farts and Model Ts.
By the 50s we were back into record heat, drought, tornados, starvation, and had warred the planet to death.
The 60s, 70s, we could only find a little southeast Asian country to bomb, and it kept getting colder. By the early 80s, the best minds in science were stating there would be an Ice Age within ten years.
True, if continued the climate projections called for Mammoths, Yaks, Polar Bears. And that just happens to coincide with the Sun Belt Building Boom. From Southern California to Florida, even Texas, people and companies fled the coming ice.
In the 90s the pattern reversed. Mortgage rates fell, property values, and The Savings and Loan scandle. Some people had bet other peoples money on a sure thing, that did not happen.
As the 00s got even warmer, sub prime paperwork, stopping Iraq from being Iraq, and spending money that did not exist, to cover money that was missing, that some people would be embarassed to explain why.
The bet was the cold would return, but like most teen years, driven by hormones, it is getting hotter than even Al Gore would make up, tornatos are returning, and next comes that dust and starvation thing.
This time there are a lot more cattle, land under the plow, which for 70 years has been farmed to sand, using expensive chemicals, made from $6 a barrel oil.
It is all the fault of Syria and Iran.
Texas is burning, as is California, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Nevada, Utah, and the fires are spreading. When it happened to Russia, we laughed.
China is owed a Trillion, and wants payment in grain. They would also take Gold. Some $50 Billion a year forever on that credit card.
Cattle are being reduced because there is not enough range, put in feed lots, which drives up corn prices, also for chickens and pigs. Lack of moisture has become critical, if the drought does not end this month, it is Iran's fault.
A warm winter, no snow, an early plowing, loss of moisture, hot and dry spring and summer, record corn prices, and farmers who bought Federal Crop Insurance, is Syria's fault.
On top of that the projection is for dryer weather for a decade. El Nino is becoming La Nina, Our growing drought is also filled with hundred year floods, every few years, and that pattern will continue, just like we were North Koreans.
We must double Homeland Security, and have Climate Reporting Authority Police, (CRAP) agents in every weather forecast, to prevent this UnAmerican reporting.
America needs Freedom from subversive facts.
Government ownership of the country must be defended to the last drop of your blood.
Our Older Brothers in Washington will honor your sacrafice.
We must double Homeland Security, and have Climate Reporting Authority Police, (CRAP) agents in every weather forecast, to prevent this UnAmerican reporting.
America needs Freedom from subversive facts.
Government ownership of the country must be defended to the last drop of your blood.
Our Older Brothers in Washington will honor your sacrafice.
Are we cynical, or merely satiric? Either way, well done!
ruveyn
RobertLovesPi
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Location: North Little Rock, Arkansas, USA
I just read about this on the Weather Network. I guess it's curtains for us, then. Nothing to look forward to but a terrible, watery death.
And I had so much left to do in life. So many video games I haven't finished or played yet, so many cartoons I haven't yet drawn, so many YouTube videos I haven't yet watched. I've never fallen in love, gotten married or had kids either but I'm talking about stuff I WANT to do before I die, okay? ![]()
The overall cooling of the planet is of little consequence when the climate is warming. The mass of the atmosphere, as a percentage of to the total mass of the planet is negligible--but it's that negligle mass that primarily we are concerned with, not the thermodynamic properties of the vast mass that underlies it.
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The atmosphere is warming, and warm air can hold more water vapor.
So as it warms, it gains water vapor and that causes drought.
This leads to record snowfalls, floods, where cooling causes it to dump, but as it also hold heat better, warm winters.
So we got record early snow in the northeast, and a record warm winter in the middle. Two and four years ago the Mississippi ran at the top of the levees, floodways were opened, and it just spread. Two hundred year floods, two years apart.
This year the river is too low for some barge traffic.
Higher highs, lower lows, droughts and thousand year floods.
With the dryness of the drought area, most of the country, this winter can get much colder. that leads to record snowfall, turning to rain in the spring, which causes the snow to melt suddenly. The last two floods reached the top of the levees, even after the floodways were opened.
This next flood will be twice that much water.
To even things out the next drought will be twice as dry.
Then comes a record snowfall that forgets to melt, and it just keeps snowing. Snow continues over a mild summer, and in an early fall it snows again, six inches a day, for two thousand years.
So as it warms, it gains water vapor and that causes drought.
This leads to record snowfalls, floods, where cooling causes it to dump, but as it also hold heat better, warm winters.
So we got record early snow in the northeast, and a record warm winter in the middle. Two and four years ago the Mississippi ran at the top of the levees, floodways were opened, and it just spread. Two hundred year floods, two years apart.
This year the river is too low for some barge traffic.
Higher highs, lower lows, droughts and thousand year floods.
With the dryness of the drought area, most of the country, this winter can get much colder. that leads to record snowfall, turning to rain in the spring, which causes the snow to melt suddenly. The last two floods reached the top of the levees, even after the floodways were opened.
This next flood will be twice that much water.
To even things out the next drought will be twice as dry.
Then comes a record snowfall that forgets to melt, and it just keeps snowing. Snow continues over a mild summer, and in an early fall it snows again, six inches a day, for two thousand years.
Time to go nuclear.
ruveyn
Just as people are ready to harvest their drought ravaged crops, we are sending them a flood called Isaac. It is zipping into New Orleans now, but moving fast, freshly fed on a warm Gulf, and will be dumping a lot of water on the parched earth and stunted plants, making mud and rot.
A wet patch, fast moving, over a parched wasteland, caused by Fox News, is just what is needed to spawn tornados. This is not a powerful storm, hardly a 1. It is wet, with cloud bands reaching out several hundred miles.
Big, fast moving, traveling over hot dry land, it will go north till it stalls, hit some cooler nights, and dump a flood,
We have had weather so bad it shows in the Geologic Record. All of that powder dry farmland is ripe to be picked up by tornados. Tornados during the 30's were much worse than we have seen, They ate whole towns and all the topsoil.
Winds over 300 miles an hour laden with soil and building materials, then scouring their way across a path hundreds of miles long.
Compared, a really bad hurricane has winds of 150, and it is raining. It spawns a few small tornados in front as it moves inland and breaks up.
Tornados can be miles across, and hop across the land, erasing where they touch down.
So this heat and moisture bomb we are sending north could just be the trigger to touch off some serious storms, floods,
It is a drought, where heat causes the air to hold more moisture, Reversing that with a Hurricane, it could get cold, and cause much more rain than the ten to twenty inches expected from the hurricane.
Climate has become more dynamic.
From what I understand, at the current rate of melting, it will take about 19,000 years for the Greenland ice sheet to melt.
Of course, as it melts, it will supposedly leave more and more opportunity for mining for major mineral resources believed (with apparently good reason) to be there.
There is no need to panic.
One other thing to consider is that we are something like 15,000 years into the current interglacial period and that interglacial periods tend to last between about 10,000 and 20,000 years. I read somewhere that the previous three interglacial warm periods were just 6,000 to 9,000 years each.
We could be in another ice age before the Greenland Ice Cap melts.
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