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Norwegian mass killer Anders Behring Breivik declared sane

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24 Aug 2012, 5:34 am

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24 Aug 2012, 5:37 am

I bet he'll never get out, in practical terms.



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24 Aug 2012, 7:30 am

He's sentenced to 21 years of preventive detention. This means that he will never get out as long as he is regarded as dangerous. If he never regrets his actions, never admits to the horrors he's caused, and never admits to understanding the pain and suffering he's caused, he will not get out of prison. It's life imprisonment in practice.



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24 Aug 2012, 9:48 am

A man kills 77 helpless and terrified people in cold blood and all he has to do is apologize and show remorse?
If he plays the game he gets out in 10-20 years?
f**k that.
Shoot the man in each of his limbs and let him bleed to death in agony.
Let people throw rotting fruit and balls of salt at him as he writhes in pain.
Make this evil pitiful excuse of a human wish for death and then give it to him.

Yes I know that's a very politically incorrect thing to say, but I doubt anyone really thinks that he deserves better.



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24 Aug 2012, 10:11 am

Norwegians are very disinclined to do as you suggest.

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24 Aug 2012, 11:10 am

Mike_Garrick wrote:
I doubt anyone really thinks that he deserves better.


I'll put my hand up say that he does. The barbarism of the offender provides no justification for barbarism on the part of the state.


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24 Aug 2012, 12:25 pm

Mike_Garrick wrote:
A man kills 77 helpless and terrified people in cold blood and all he has to do is apologize and show remorse?
If he plays the game he gets out in 10-20 years?
f**k that.
Shoot the man in each of his limbs and let him bleed to death in agony.
Let people throw rotting fruit and balls of salt at him as he writhes in pain.
Make this evil pitiful excuse of a human wish for death and then give it to him.

Yes I know that's a very politically incorrect thing to say, but I doubt anyone really thinks that he deserves better.


I'm afraid you're about a thousand years too late for that to happen in Norway. If this were still Viking times in Norway, you could expect all sorts of bloodthirsty justice.

-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer



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24 Aug 2012, 12:30 pm

visagrunt wrote:
I'll put my hand up say that he does. The barbarism of the offender provides no justification for barbarism on the part of the state.



What about barbarism from another offender who may kill him in prison?



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24 Aug 2012, 1:01 pm

Tequila wrote:
I bet he'll never get out, in practical terms.


Like he'll really be hurting in a prison that looks like it could be straight out of an IKEA catalog.


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24 Aug 2012, 1:23 pm

Venger wrote:
What about barbarism from another offender who may kill him in prison?


Ditto.

If violence is used as a justification for further violence then where are we as a civilization? We must work to prevent violence, not merely react to it when it occurs.


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24 Aug 2012, 1:48 pm

Venger wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
I'll put my hand up say that he does. The barbarism of the offender provides no justification for barbarism on the part of the state.



What about barbarism from another offender who may kill him in prison?


Thats what happened to Jeffry Daumer - a fellow inmate snuck into the laundry room of the prison while he working there- and knifed him to death. It might well happen to Brevik.



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24 Aug 2012, 2:32 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Venger wrote:
visagrunt wrote:
I'll put my hand up say that he does. The barbarism of the offender provides no justification for barbarism on the part of the state.



What about barbarism from another offender who may kill him in prison?


Thats what happened to Jeffry Daumer - a fellow inmate snuck into the laundry room of the prison while he working there- and knifed him to death. It might well happen to Brevik.


I thought Dahmer had been battered to death with a dumbbell about the skull till he had been unrecognizable.

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24 Aug 2012, 2:58 pm

If a painful death was a more accepted punishment for monsters like this instead of a comfy and warm prison of like minded individuals, he may have thought twice before he went and shot all those people.

Hell even in the us when someone does get the death penalty its a painless injection, all they feel is a pin prick.

This man is famous, has everyone talking about his views, is going to eat better then me and never worry about money for the rest of his life, or 20 years if he feels like playing along.
So what exactly is his punishment?



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24 Aug 2012, 3:33 pm

In true, he want to be either put to death or be free, but not in jail for life. That's beacuse if he's put to death that would be for him a political victory. The reason of this man to kill was after all a extreme right ideology. The killing was a political statement.
This is not true either that death by injection is painless, studies show it's extremelly painfull.



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24 Aug 2012, 3:37 pm

Well I think that that creep from Norway needs to be locked up in jail for ever.

While I do not wish that another member of the prison population should shash in his skull with a broom stcik (like J Dahmer) I think an effort should be made to make sure he does not enjoy his time in the prison. I think that he should be required to share a cell with a group of the local drunk drivers, wife beaters and whatever other dregs of society which happen to be in jail.

I think that his cell mates should be given orders not to physically harm him, but to feel free to do things which will irk and annoy him. They should also be given a deal that anyone who saves him from being attacked by another prisoner or stops him killing himself will get a big reward. Thus the cell mates will act as his bodyguards to keep him alive so the punishment can be continued for a very long time.

I think he should be given some form of work which is horrible and never ending, the work should be designed to be very sisyphean in nature. I think that the brightest minds in norway and north europe should address this problem to design a sisyphean task which will torment him but not physically harm him. One suggestion I have is to get 4 tons of 5 mm stones in a pile. Then make him move the pile using a plastic beach spade and bucket to the otherside of the room. Then make him move it back again. Or make him paint the floor of his cell with a toenail brush, each week it would have a different colour.


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