Hey kids! Print your own gun!! !

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So, can I now print out a, 'Protection from idiots with Guns'
Gun?

Think a hybrid, non stressed parts printed from ABS with aluminum inserts from a CNC mini mill for things like the chambers and barrel. I'm thinking something like the carbon fiber wound barrels sometimes seen on high end hunting rifles, but the budget version designed for inexpensive strength rather than weight savings. I'm also using a modernized black powder system and non solid shot, read: flechettes, in order to keep the chamber pressure down. Basically, I'm talking a shotgun revolver firing pre-loaded plastic and aluminum cassettes loaded with pyrodex and steel darts using a piezioelectric igniter with a limited number of strikes. I'd have to invest a bit more than I currently am willing to in order to build a prototype and test it out, but on paper it should work.

It has to do with the observation that state supported mass murder tends to be preceded by disarming the populace; it's a common pattern. Giving everyone access to weaponry despite the best efforts of their states to stop them is one way to keep the various governments in check.

Are you going to test this design on your children
or are you going to let it be tested on someone elses children?
I suggest you test it on yourself, first

Wow, suggesting self harm on a mental health forum; you're a real prince, aren't you? A shining beacon of humanity...

Normally ballistic gel or livestock works best. Then let 3rd world children try it on guerrilla soldiers that are massacring their village. The problem in Africa and other war-torn places is not the guns themselves, it's how they are distributed. It's well established in those kinds of places that a lack of guns on all sides only causes them to use melee weapons. Villages and towns are just as often exterminated using machetes as they are using guns. Driving off marauders is a start, but in the long term though, more reliable crops (and more of them) and less influence from "the religion of peace" would go a long way!

I am actually writing in thread as being horrified by the atrocities commited by the assad regime in Syriahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hama_massacre

syzygyish wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
Woodpecker wrote:
I worry that a gun made of something like ABS will not be able to tolerate the forces required even for .22 let alone something like 44 magnum or 45 ACP (or even something like 7.62 mm rifle).

If you were able to add nylon threads into the ABS to make a composite then it might be possible to increase the safe working load on the breach but I do not see a way in which it would be possible to print the ABS / nylon composite. Maybe it would be just more easy to make it out of metal.

I do not like the idea of a cheap plastic gun which wears out, even if you make it so that it's firing mechanism has a limited life in terms of the number of shots it can fire. It will still be unsafe. Imagine that you are facing a bad guy with the "plastic popper" and you try to squeeze off a 22 rim fire slug, then at that point you discover that your plastic gun has just given up the ghost then I imagine that you are in a whole world of trouble. You would be better off either with no gun at all or maybe something like a S&W revolver which is likely to last forever if it is treated with respect.


Think a hybrid, non stressed parts printed from ABS with aluminum inserts from a CNC mini mill for things like the chambers and barrel. I'm thinking something like the carbon fiber wound barrels sometimes seen on high end hunting rifles, but the budget version designed for inexpensive strength rather than weight savings. I'm also using a modernized black powder system and non solid shot, read: flechettes, in order to keep the chamber pressure down. Basically, I'm talking a shotgun revolver firing pre-loaded plastic and aluminum cassettes loaded with pyrodex and steel darts using a piezioelectric igniter with a limited number of strikes. I'd have to invest a bit more than I currently am willing to in order to build a prototype and test it out, but on paper it should work.


Are you going to test this design on your children
or are you going to let it be tested on someone elses children?
I suggest you test it on yourself, first


Wow, suggesting self harm on a mental health forum; you're a real prince, aren't you? A shining beacon of humanity...

You are exactly right!
That was the stupidist thing I could have said on this forum
I apologise sincerely and swear I will never say anything about that again!
We inhabit a place of black and white thinkers
and it is best that we remember this
and those that forget this need to be kicked in the pants

I am gratefull (I suppose) that you realised the heart of the matter

I realise that there is a definite perception ideology here
Dox47 and Woodpecker, may I quote you both a quote I think is important here?
Thank-You
From Jurrasic Park
"They were so involved with whether they could do it,
they didn't stop to consider if they should do it"

And that is why your posts on this thread horrify me
in fact this thread horrifies me
I am going to stop watching it

Well Dox it sounds like you have thought throught some of the design issues but the idea of the printable gun which uses ABS for the non stressed parts and the CNC mill for the critical parts still sounds a bit like a hi tech zip gun to me. What about using a thin steel pipe which is wrapped with either kevlar or nylon ? I know that some aluminium air cylinders for light weight SCBA sets use some plastics to give the cylinder extra strength. Have you thought about going for a similar design ?

I still think that putting cheap guns in the hands of people may make the world a more dangerous place, a gun is not a panacea which makes everything perfect in the world.