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09 Oct 2012, 6:41 pm

treatened to fire his employee if Obama His elected.

http://gawker.com/5950189/the-ceo-who-built-himself-americas-largest-house-just-threatened-to-fire-his-employees-if-obamas-elected?utm_source=kotaku.com&utm_medium=recirculation&utm_campaign=recirculation

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David Siegel is the founder and CEO of Westgate Resorts, a huge national timeshare company and one of the largest resort developers in the world. In 2007 he was a billionaire, although he may be only a hundred-millionaire now. He and his wife Jackie were the subjects of the recent documentary "The Queen of Versailles," about their ongoing quest to build the largest house in America, a 90,000 square foot monument to excess. And yesterday, David Siegel sent an email to all of his thousands of employees, in which he—in a veiled way—insinuated that they would be fired of Barack Obama is reelected.

UPDATE: Shortly after we posted this letter, we found out, thanks to multiple readers, that it bore suspicious resemblances to a popular chain letter that was circulated just before the 2008 elections. Well, we just got off the phone with David Siegel, who told us the letter below is real, and that it was sent out to all of his employees yesterday. "I did use the letter that had circulated before as a guideline, but I changed it [to fit my circumstances]," he told us. "It speaks the truth and it gives [employees] something to think about when they go to the polls." He also said that its threats of possible layoffs are real, based on his assessment of the political and economic climate. He added that he "hasn't had any negative feedback" on the letter.
The Florida-based Westgate Resorts is not a public company. It is the domain of David Siegel, a staunch Republican. In fact, Siegel has publicly claimed credit for George W. Bush defeating Al Gore, saying "I had my managers do a survey on every employee [8,000 total]. If they liked Bush, we made them register to vote. But not if they liked Gore."

"The Queen of Versailles" depicts the dashing of Siegel's mansion dreams after the recession hit. But just months ago, he restarted construction on his personal Palace of Versailles (with the intention of selling it for $100 million) and told Reuters, "We're the most profitable we've ever been."

Huge mansion. Huge fortune. Profitable company. What could David Siegal have to complain about? Well, the demonization of the 1% by Barack Obama, for one thing. This truly amazing email went out to all Westgate employees yesterday. Bolding is ours.

Subject: Message from David Siegel
Date:Mon, 08 Oct 2012 13:58:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: [David Siegel]
To: [All employees]

To All My Valued Employees,

As most of you know our company, Westgate Resorts, has continued to succeed in spite of a very dismal economy. There is no question that the economy has changed for the worse and we have not seen any improvement over the past four years. In spite of all of the challenges we have faced, the good news is this: The economy doesn't currently pose a threat to your job. What does threaten your job however, is another 4 years of the same Presidential administration. Of course, as your employer, I can't tell you whom to vote for, and I certainly wouldn't interfere with your right to vote for whomever you choose. In fact, I encourage you to vote for whomever you think will serve your interests the best.

However, let me share a few facts that might help you decide what is in your best interest.The current administration and members of the press have perpetuated an environment that casts employers against employees. They want you to believe that we live in a class system where the rich get richer, the poor get poorer. They label us the "1%" and imply that we are somehow immune to the challenges that face our country. This could not be further from the truth. Sure, you may have heard about the big home that I'm building. I'm sure many people think that I live a privileged life. However, what you don't see or hear is the true story behind any success that I have achieved.

I started this company over 42 years ago. At that time, I lived in a very modest home. I converted my garage into an office so I could put forth 100% effort into building a company, which by the way, would eventually employ you. We didn't eat in fancy restaurants or take expensive vacations because every dollar I made went back into this company. I drove an old used car, and often times, I stayed home on weekends, while my friends went out drinking and partying. In fact, I was married to my business — hard work, discipline, and sacrifice. Meanwhile, many of my friends got regular jobs. They worked 40 hours a week and made a nice income, and they spent every dime they earned. They drove flashy cars and lived in expensive homes and wore fancy designer clothes. My friends refinanced their mortgages and lived a life of luxury. I, however, did not. I put my time, my money, and my life into this business —-with a vision that eventually, some day, I too, will be able to afford to buy whatever I wanted. Even to this day, every dime I earn goes back into this company. Over the past four years I have had to stop building my dream house, cut back on all of my expenses, and take my kids out of private schools simply to keep this company strong and to keep you employed.

Just think about this – most of you arrive at work in the morning and leave that afternoon and the rest of your time is yours to do as you please. But not me- there is no "off" button for me. When you leave the office, you are done and you have a weekend all to yourself. I unfortunately do not have that freedom. I eat, live, and breathe this company every minute of the day, every day of the week. There is no rest. There is no weekend. There is no happy hour. I know many of you work hard and do a great job, but I'm the one who has to sign every check, pay every expense, and make sure that this company continues to succeed. Unfortunately, what most people see is the nice house and the lavish lifestyle. What the press certainly does not want you to see, is the true story of the hard work and sacrifices I've made.

Now, the economy is falling apart and people like me who made all the right decisions and invested in themselves are being forced to bail out all the people who didn't. The people that overspent their paychecks suddenly feel entitled to the same luxuries that I earned and sacrificed 42 years of my life for. Yes, business ownership has its benefits, but the price I've paid is steep and not without wounds. Unfortunately, the costs of running a business have gotten out of control, and let me tell you why: We are being taxed to death and the government thinks we don't pay enough. We pay state taxes, federal taxes, property taxes, sales and use taxes, payroll taxes, workers compensation taxes and unemployment taxes. I even have to hire an entire department to manage all these taxes. The question I have is this: Who is really stimulating the economy? Is it the Government that wants to take money from those who have earned it and give it to those who have not, or is it people like me who built a company out of his garage and directly employs over 7000 people and hosts over 3 million people per year with a great vacation?

Obviously, our present government believes that taking my money is the right economic stimulus for this country. The fact is, if I deducted 50% of your paycheck you'd quit and you wouldn't work here. I mean, why should you? Who wants to get rewarded only 50% of their hard work? Well, that's what happens to me.

Here is what most people don't understand and the press and our Government has chosen to ignore – to stimulate the economy you need to stimulate what runs the economy. Instead of raising my taxes and depositing that money into the Washington black-hole, let me spend it on growing the company, hire more employees, and generate substantial economic growth. My employees will enjoy the wealth of that tax cut in the form of promotions and better salaries. But that is not what our current Government wants you to believe. They want you to believe that it somehow makes sense to take more from those who create wealth and give it to those who do not, and somehow our economy will improve. They don't want you to know that the "1%", as they like to label us, pay more than 31% of all the taxes in this country. Thomas Jefferson, the author of our great Constitution, once said, "democracy" will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

Business is at the heart of America and always has been. To restart it, you must stimulate business, not kill it. However, the power brokers in Washington believe redistributing wealth is the essential driver of the American economic engine. Nothing could be further from the truth and this is the type of change they want.

So where am I going with all this? It's quite simple. If any new taxes are levied on me, or my company, as our current President plans, I will have no choice but to reduce the size of this company. Rather than grow this company I will be forced to cut back. This means fewer jobs, less benefits and certainly less opportunity for everyone.

So, when you make your decision to vote, ask yourself, which candidate understands the economics of business ownership and who doesn't? Whose policies will endanger your job? Answer those questions and you should know who might be the one capable of protecting and saving your job. While the media wants to tell you to believe the "1 percenters" are bad, I'm telling you they are not. They create most of the jobs. If you lose your job, it won't be at the hands of the "1%"; it will be at the hands of a political hurricane that swept through this country.

You see, I can no longer support a system that penalizes the productive and gives to the unproductive. My motivation to work and to provide jobs will be destroyed, and with it, so will your opportunities. If that happens, you can find me in the Caribbean sitting on the beach, under a palm tree, retired, and with no employees to worry about.

Signed, your boss,

David Siegel


What a d***.



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09 Oct 2012, 6:59 pm

This guy is awesome.


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09 Oct 2012, 7:09 pm

An assertion on the web site that it is on the level is not, by itself, reason to believe the letter is real. I'll withhold my judgement until such time as it has actually been vetted and shown to be true.

As it stands now, I have my doubts.



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09 Oct 2012, 7:10 pm

The only way he can have zero employees is to liquidate his business.

Which he has a perfect right to do. After he has covered all open outstanding contracts he can cease to do business, sell of the asserts and take the money and run.

He has not made any personal threats at all. He says if Obama wins he will have no employees which means he is going to liquidate his business. Either that or replace all his employees with subcontractors which he has a perfectly legal right to do.

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09 Oct 2012, 7:31 pm

He's the man behind timeshares, eh? Well, I don't have anything nice to say about him then, regardless of political views. If he fired all his employees, it'd do the world a favor if the timeshares went away with them.



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09 Oct 2012, 7:41 pm

Based on my reading, it does not sound like he is threatening anyone's job. Rather, he is saying that the creation of new taxes may lessen his motivation to create new jobs and keep opportunity alive within his company. From a purely business perspective, this seems perfectly reasonable. David Siegel, and many entrepreneurs, start and sustain businesses to make money. They only hire people insofar as they need them to make money. When other expenses cut into this, they have less money to create jobs. You see more factories open in low tax, low insurance Texas than you do in much higher tax states such as New York.

The good news is that David Siegel probably has incentive to keep jobs, even in a costly environment. My suspicion is that he built his business partly because he loves the time share industry. Who I'd really feel sorry for are employees of a publicly-traded company. If taxes cut into their bottom line, they WOULD begin layoffs, and no one could blame management or anyone because they are slaves to share value.



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09 Oct 2012, 8:08 pm

Absent real verification, the claims are not believable.



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09 Oct 2012, 8:39 pm

eric76 wrote:
Absent real verification, the claims are not believable.

Google "David Siegel." Multiple sources are carrying this as believable. At least one source (Gawker) noted he sent out a similar e-mail in the 2000 election.

The irony is that he'll probably lay off people if Mitt Romney gets elected president. If that happens, Obama will become a lame duck president, and will have absolutely no incentive to work with Congress to avoid the Fiscal Cliff. We will most certainly be pushed back into recession, and families will pull back on luxury items. Like timeshares.



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09 Oct 2012, 9:48 pm

lotuspuppy wrote:
eric76 wrote:
Absent real verification, the claims are not believable.

Google "David Siegel." Multiple sources are carrying this as believable. At least one source (Gawker) noted he sent out a similar e-mail in the 2000 election.


I don't know enough about Gawker to make any judgement regarding their credibility.

There was a similar e-mail in 2008, not 2000. Also, a story on Forbes says that Siegel claims credit for Bush's election in 2000. I could find nothing about him sending out a similar e-mail in 2000. If he had, then the Snopes article would likely have mentioned it.

That said, I do believe that if any CEO is crazy enough to write such a letter, it would likely be David Siegel.



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09 Oct 2012, 9:55 pm

eric76 wrote:
lotuspuppy wrote:
eric76 wrote:
Absent real verification, the claims are not believable.

Google "David Siegel." Multiple sources are carrying this as believable. At least one source (Gawker) noted he sent out a similar e-mail in the 2000 election.


I don't know enough about Gawker to make any judgement regarding their credibility.

There was a similar e-mail in 2008, not 2000. Also, a story on Forbes says that Siegel claims credit for Bush's election in 2000. I could find nothing about him sending out a similar e-mail in 2000. If he had, then the Snopes article would likely have mentioned it.

That said, I do believe that if any CEO is crazy enough to write such a letter, it would likely be David Siegel.


It actually wouldn't surprise me if the letter is real, he isn't threatening anyone, he's pointing out that he's not going to bankrupt himself due to Obama's insane regulations and will shut down all his businesses rather than put up with the idiocy.



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09 Oct 2012, 11:30 pm

Empty threats. It is funny that conservatives seem to think all employees do is sit around and get paid. Companies don't hire employees they don't need. Employment isn't some form of charity. Any tax hike that he's threatening to lay off workers over will be smaller than the profits he would lose by losing a significant percentage of labor.



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09 Oct 2012, 11:34 pm

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Empty threats. It is funny that conservatives seem to think all employees do is sit around and get paid. Companies don't hire employees they don't need. Employment isn't some form of charity. Any tax hike that he's threatening to lay off workers over will be smaller than the profits he would lose by losing a significant percentage of labor.


That's what liberals said when the owner of Jimmy Johns threatened to move his company HQ out of Illinois... Turns out said owner wasn't bluffing and has in fact moved the HQ out of Illinois. I seriously doubt this CEO is bluffing either.



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10 Oct 2012, 2:44 am

lotuspuppy wrote:
eric76 wrote:
Absent real verification, the claims are not believable.

Google "David Siegel." Multiple sources are carrying this as believable. At least one source (Gawker) noted he sent out a similar e-mail in the 2000 election.

The irony is that he'll probably lay off people if Mitt Romney gets elected president. If that happens, Obama will become a lame duck president, and will have absolutely no incentive to work with Congress to avoid the Fiscal Cliff. We will most certainly be pushed back into recession, and families will pull back on luxury items. Like timeshares.


Good, my family is f*****g broke because my mom got suckered into them. As a Christian, I'm not supposed to wish ill upon my enemies, but this man, uhm, testing that a little bit. This is how I feel about him, and all people affiliated with timeshares.
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10 Oct 2012, 4:11 pm

Inuyasha wrote:
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Empty threats. It is funny that conservatives seem to think all employees do is sit around and get paid. Companies don't hire employees they don't need. Employment isn't some form of charity. Any tax hike that he's threatening to lay off workers over will be smaller than the profits he would lose by losing a significant percentage of labor.


That's what liberals said when the owner of Jimmy Johns threatened to move his company HQ out of Illinois... Turns out said owner wasn't bluffing and has in fact moved the HQ out of Illinois. I seriously doubt this CEO is bluffing either.


I suppose someone who makes a living on their investment portfolio probably could get away with axing the productive members of society beneath them and doesn't need a company necessarily, so you may have a point there.



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10 Oct 2012, 8:10 pm

The real question is what if he carries out the threat?