KKK Rally At Gettysburg Canceled Due to Government Shutdown
03 Oct 2013, 9:38 pm
Of course street gangs are based on ethnic affiliation - and that is purely racism.
But other than race, I fail to see any connection between the NAACP and the Crips and Bloods. And there is a huge difference between the NAACP and the KKK, as the former is a civil rights organization that had fought with peaceful means to include black Americans in the political system, and to gain for them equal social standing with whites. The KKK, on the other hand, is a racist terrorist organization bent on white supremacy.
And in answer to your question, I would definitely see the Klan in a different light if they had not been guilty of violence. I'd see them as a bunch of goofy inbreds wearing Halloween costumes. But they have demonstrated a willingness to commit violent crimes, and that separates them from civil rights organizations. I have yet to hear the kind of racist language coming out of the mouths of the NAACP like I do out of the mouths of the KKK.
Bill, first let me say that you are one of the nicest and most educated liberals I have dealt with in a while, and it is appreciated.
There is no connection between the NAACP and the Crips and Bloods. The connection is between the NAACP and the KKK. Though the NAACP has always used legal, nonviolent methods (as far as I know anyway), their ultimate goals are the mirror image of the Klans; i.e., both wish to advance their respective groups.
As far as "racist language" goes, blacks use plenty of it against whites. I'm not going to print those things, but if you need a link, I can provide one for you.
Regarding non-violent Klan types, I have one right here who is nonviolent as they come. But he was fired from National Review for alleged racism over the column below. The reason I am providing this link is so that you can see for yourself that his rhetoric in not violent, but well-presented. Though I'm not a big fan of Derbyshire's, he's hardly the violent "racist" Klansman of stereotype. How is he different from the NAACP?
http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_non ... z1rJFc7Sbq
03 Oct 2013, 9:49 pm
But other than race, I fail to see any connection between the NAACP and the Crips and Bloods. And there is a huge difference between the NAACP and the KKK, as the former is a civil rights organization that had fought with peaceful means to include black Americans in the political system, and to gain for them equal social standing with whites. The KKK, on the other hand, is a racist terrorist organization bent on white supremacy.
And in answer to your question, I would definitely see the Klan in a different light if they had not been guilty of violence. I'd see them as a bunch of goofy inbreds wearing Halloween costumes. But they have demonstrated a willingness to commit violent crimes, and that separates them from civil rights organizations. I have yet to hear the kind of racist language coming out of the mouths of the NAACP like I do out of the mouths of the KKK.
Bill, first let me say that you are one of the nicest and most educated liberals I have dealt with in a while, and it is appreciated.
There is no connection between the NAACP and the Crips and Bloods. The connection is between the NAACP and the KKK. Though the NAACP has always used legal, nonviolent methods (as far as I know anyway), their ultimate goals are the mirror image of the Klans; i.e., both wish to advance their respective groups.
As far as "racist language" goes, blacks use plenty of it against whites. I'm not going to print those things, but if you need a link, I can provide one for you.
Regarding non-violent Klan types, I have one right here who is nonviolent as they come. But he was fired from National Review for alleged racism over the column below. The reason I am providing this link is so that you can see for yourself that his rhetoric in not violent, but well-presented. Though I'm not a big fan of Derbyshire's, he's hardly the violent "racist" Klansman of stereotype. How is he different from the NAACP?
http://takimag.com/article/the_talk_non ... z1rJFc7Sbq
Thank you for the compliment. Trust me, there are plenty of polite, educated liberals - especially on this forum, such as Auntblabby and vigilans.
As for the article - I'm sorry, but I gotta tell you, with stuff like that blacks lack the intelligence of whites, I'm not at all surprised he was fired. I'd expect the same thing if a black writer wrote the same thing about other races, too.
As for seeing the NAACP as comparable to the Klan - the single biggest difference is, the former has been fighting for the rights of blacks, a group long held in second class status without political voice. The KKK on the other hand had always fought to keep blacks and others from equal citizenship by means of terror.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
04 Oct 2013, 2:21 am
Defend to the death, and all that...
However, I have so far found no evidence that they have been selectively targeted during the government shutdown, so... meh...
The Klan have much in common with Al Qaeda in they have a history of terrorising and murdering innocent people. I'm surprised people can;t make the obvious connection.
04 Oct 2013, 2:41 am
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Of course street gangs are based on ethnic affiliation - and that is purely racism.
But other than race, I fail to see any connection between the NAACP and the Crips and Bloods.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer[/quote]
Actually, you are wrong about that. There are many white "Bloods" in my area. Some gangs are of course racially based, but others are purely criminal organizations who will accept anyone who can help make money...
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08 Oct 2013, 1:20 pm
The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Bill, as evidenced by the link below, I was wrong on the details, but not on the gist of my post, which was that the rules would be broken for the right liberal group:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/signs-say ... le/2536957
08 Oct 2013, 2:39 pm
The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Bill, as evidenced by the link below, I was wrong on the details, but not on the gist of my post, which was that the rules would be broken for the right liberal group:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/signs-say ... le/2536957
That may be so. But the fact of the matter is, the Klan has a violent, hateful history that will always color everything they do. Whether you agree with immigration reform or not, it's representatives and activists have always conducted themselves lawfully.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
08 Oct 2013, 2:55 pm
The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Bill, as evidenced by the link below, I was wrong on the details, but not on the gist of my post, which was that the rules would be broken for the right liberal group:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/signs-say ... le/2536957
That may be so. But the fact of the matter is, the Klan has a violent, hateful history that will always color everything they do. Whether you agree with immigration reform or not, it's representatives and activists have always conducted themselves lawfully.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Bill I'm surprised you would say such a thing. The VERY PRESENCE of these people in this country is unlawful. Nor are they always nonviolent. In fact, Obama had signs posted in the AZ desert warning drivers to keep their doors locked because of the violence problems associated with illegal immigration. See here:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... /?page=all
It is also the case that drugs don't just walk across our borders by themselves; they come across with the people who illegally cross.
As far as the Klan goes, the less said about the modern Klan the better; most of them are either in prison, headed there, just out--or at least belong there. But that has not always been the case. I would remind you that more than a few prominent Democrat politicians have been in the Klan in the past. Many of the major roads in Dallas are named after people who were in the Klan long ago.
Illegal aliens aren't all good, and the Klan wasn't all bad--at least in the past.
08 Oct 2013, 3:04 pm
The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Bill, as evidenced by the link below, I was wrong on the details, but not on the gist of my post, which was that the rules would be broken for the right liberal group:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/signs-say ... le/2536957
That may be so. But the fact of the matter is, the Klan has a violent, hateful history that will always color everything they do. Whether you agree with immigration reform or not, it's representatives and activists have always conducted themselves lawfully.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Bill I'm surprised you would say such a thing. The VERY PRESENCE of these people in this country is unlawful. Nor are they always nonviolent. In fact, Obama had signs posted in the AZ desert warning drivers to keep their doors locked because of the violence problems associated with illegal immigration. See here:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... /?page=all
It is also the case that drugs don't just walk across our borders by themselves; they come across with the people who illegally cross.
As far as the Klan goes, the less said about the modern Klan the better; most of them are either in prison, headed there, just out--or at least belong there. But that has not always been the case. I would remind you that more than a few prominent Democrat politicians have been in the Klan in the past. Many of the major roads in Dallas are named after people who were in the Klan long ago.
Illegal aliens aren't all good, and the Klan wasn't all bad--at least in the past.
I know there have been violent illegal aliens - I was actually talking about the organizations representing immigration reform.
And while Democrats of the past had had membership in the Klan, they are hardly representative of the Democratic party's ideals of today. In fact, they would doubtlessly renounce their affiliation with the Democratic party if they lived today.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
08 Oct 2013, 3:15 pm
The Klan wasn't actually disallowed for their cretinous ideology, but because national parks were closed due to the shutdown. I suppose they'd be allowed to demonstrate to sully that hallowed ground otherwise.
And while I agree Louis Farrakhan and his Nation of Islam are comparable to the KKK, I don't think it's fair to describe Jackson or Sharpton as such, despite their more than occasional foot-in-mouth disease.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Bill, as evidenced by the link below, I was wrong on the details, but not on the gist of my post, which was that the rules would be broken for the right liberal group:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/signs-say ... le/2536957
That may be so. But the fact of the matter is, the Klan has a violent, hateful history that will always color everything they do. Whether you agree with immigration reform or not, it's representatives and activists have always conducted themselves lawfully.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Bill I'm surprised you would say such a thing. The VERY PRESENCE of these people in this country is unlawful. Nor are they always nonviolent. In fact, Obama had signs posted in the AZ desert warning drivers to keep their doors locked because of the violence problems associated with illegal immigration. See here:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... /?page=all
It is also the case that drugs don't just walk across our borders by themselves; they come across with the people who illegally cross.
As far as the Klan goes, the less said about the modern Klan the better; most of them are either in prison, headed there, just out--or at least belong there. But that has not always been the case. I would remind you that more than a few prominent Democrat politicians have been in the Klan in the past. Many of the major roads in Dallas are named after people who were in the Klan long ago.
Illegal aliens aren't all good, and the Klan wasn't all bad--at least in the past.
I know there have been violent illegal aliens - I was actually talking about the organizations representing immigration reform.
And while Democrats of the past had had membership in the Klan, they are hardly representative of the Democratic party's ideals of today. In fact, they would doubtlessly renounce their affiliation with the Democratic party if they lived today.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
Bill, the fact still remains that my initial comments predicted the rules would be bent for a liberal group, you said that wouldn't happen, and I showed you it did.
As far as the Democrats to, it bears iteration and reiteration: Fascism was where the state declared war on foreign countries and despised minority groups, Liberalism, like communism, is where the state declares war on its own citizens. And the Democrat Party is at the vanguard of that effort. Liberalism is working hard to make Americans a despised minority in our own country.
08 Oct 2013, 4:56 pm
I wonder what The Aryan Nation (neo-nazi's) are doing? They should have an adult swim cartoon where the crips and bloods are the rich sophisticated groups and the Aryan Nation dress in red and white and have gang wars in the ghetto. That would be quite funny.
Anyways I hate this Neo-Nazi, KKK stuff too. I hope they don't decide to eat at Big John's steak and onion's instead of their picnic in Gettysburg. I love Big John's Steak and Onions, mmmmm.
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08 Oct 2013, 5:11 pm
^^^^Watch the movie White Man's Burden with Belafonte and Travolta.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Man's_Burden_(film )
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08 Oct 2013, 6:12 pm
Bill, the National Mall is open to advocates for illegal aliens, yet it is closed to Americans who risked all for this country. It is this kind of thing--making Americans second-class citizens in their own country--that gives so many of us a palpable hatred for the Democrats. And, of course, it should be noted these people have nothing more to do with the Klan than you or I:
http://twitchy.com/2013/10/01/world-war ... onal-mall/
08 Oct 2013, 10:04 pm
Librarian -
Liberalism makes war on America's own citizens? It makes American citizens a despised minority? How so? Liberals have been in the vanguard of every major struggle for rights fought by American citizens, from civil rights, to labor rights, from gay rights, to consumer rights. Last time I checked, that entailed all American citizens.
-Bill, otherwise known as Kraichgauer
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